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Rape Victims Punished For Being Raped

Here is an article that they ran in the LA Times on Sunday on how rapes are dealed with in Iraq. The article is kind of long but very interesting/enraging. I'll attach the link but it won't do you any good unless you subscribe to the times.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...,7572553.story

In Iraq, Sexual Assault Incidents Are Brushed Aside
Report Says Police often see rape as a family matter. Female victims are disowned, even killed, by relatives.

By Robyn Dixon, Times Staff Writer

BAGHDAD — The girl was all alone on the desolate fringe of Baghdad, crying and pleading for help. She and her two sisters had been abducted by a gang, she said through her tears, and held captive for weeks. She had escaped, but she had been forced to leave her sisters behind.

The elderly man in a pickup recoiled. He didn't want to help this girl — surely she'd been defiled. Finally, he relented.

But after half an hour, he stopped near a mosque and told her to get out.

Then he sped off — the only witness who could have helped police trace the house where the girl, Mary, 15, her sisters and at least seven other girls as young as 6 had been held prisoner.

The next person Mary met — a woman this time — was slightly more helpful. She put Mary in a taxi with a strange man, wrote a note and told him to take the girl to coalition forces.

In a country where rape is so shameful that conservative families may kill the victims, Mary's two half-hearted rescuers that day in June didn't want to get involved in her ordeal. A recent report on sexual assaults in Iraq has focused attention on dismissive attitudes — or worse — to rape, not just among ordinary Iraqis but also among police and health officials.

Bernard Kerik, the former New York City police commissioner who until recently oversaw the Iraqi police, has said that reforming their attitudes to rape is a high priority, but the message has not filtered down to many Iraqi policemen.

Police Lt. Col. Abbas Jasim, whose station, Al Khadraq, covers most of west Baghdad, insisted that rape affects only non-Islamic societies. "Our Islamic religion forbids these acts and even our criminals are affected, so they are afraid to commit rape," he said.

Another police colonel at the station, Mohammed Abdul Raheem, said he did not know of a single genuine case in his 26 years in the force.

Such comments highlight the problems the U.S.-led coalition faces in turning around deeply ingrained cultural attitudes — and the gulf between coalition soldiers and Iraqi police as they work together on law enforcement.

The July report on sexual violence issued by the U.S.-based Human Rights Watch criticized the coalition's failure to protect women and girls from violence and track down and punish rapists, reporting that U.S. military police often did not follow up rape complaints. It said Iraqi police saw rape as a matter for families to resolve.

"Police officers frequently did not appear to recognize or purposefully downplayed the seriousness of allegations of sexual violence and abductions," the report said, noting that Iraqi police referred to Mary as "the girl who ran away."

"Police officers frequently did not appear to recognize or purposefully downplayed the seriousness of allegations of sexual violence and abductions," the report said, noting that Iraqi police referred to Mary as "the girl who ran away."

After Mary was abducted, coalition soldiers, including a female officer, interviewed her. But Mary, illiterate and a stranger to Baghdad, had no idea where she and the other girls had been held captive.

Mary says that she was not raped but that her older sister was — daily. The three sisters were abducted in early May from a market in their hometown of Basra in southern Iraq. When Mary broke a lock and escaped from their abductors' house about a month later, she called out to her sisters, one of them 9 and the other 16, who were being held in another room. Neither answered. She hesitated in a moment of frozen terror. Then she fled, leaving them behind.

Their fate was unknown.

"I cry about them day and night," Mary said.

In Iraq, there is a huge psychological barrier against reporting rape and no reliable statistics on such incidents. Rape is a stain, and the task of washing away the dishonor by killing the victim traditionally falls to her brother. Even if she isn't killed by her family, a victim's chances for marriage may be ruined or she may be forced to marry her attacker.

Mary knows the risk of going home. But she is desperate to return to her family in Basra, after more than two months in the orphanage where the coalition forces placed her.

"It doesn't matter, even if they kill me. I just want to go back," she said, looking down at fingers with chipped purple nail polish.

In the month before she was able to escape, Mary heard her older sister being raped in the room next door. She saw her only twice during their imprisonment, when her sister tearfully confirmed those assaults.

"I heard her crying and screaming. They used to go and harm her every night. She told me she was raped," Mary said.

If her older sister is found alive, it could be dangerous for her to go home. Even Mary seemed uncertain, saying, "I don't know what [my parents'] reaction to my sister would be."

Mary described her sister, who has not been named because of the danger, as intelligent, studious, beautiful. She liked to be alone.

"She was complicated," Mary said.

About a week after her capture, Mary overheard two gang members near her door, discussing plans to sell her and her younger sister. Soon after, a plump, well-dressed woman came with alluring promises to take them in as her guests.

"She came and looked us over. She was the one who was supposed to buy us," Mary said. But the woman did not come back for the girls.

Mary said the gang members and a woman who worked with them brought four girls ranging in age from 6 to 10 and three older girls to the house.

"The little girls were crying, and they were kept for about three days," Mary said. "And then they took them away."

Even though she is alone now and surrounded by the echoing clatter of orphanage life, Mary is still haunted by the face of one of her abductors.

"He was the most vicious. I'm still afraid of him," she said. "At night I sometimes felt something in the room. I would open my eyes and see his face, staring at me.

"Now I can't bear to be alone in my room or the bathroom because his face comes into my mind."

More than two months after her escape, Mary was still in the orphanage. No one had contacted her family because of interruptions in Iraq's telephone lines.

The Red Cross was assisting. But there were no follow-up visits by police officers or coalition forces.

A teenage rape victim who had been abducted by a Baghdad gang for a week was interviewed by U.S. military police and then sent home to her family in Diyala province, northeast of Baghdad, an area where radical Islam and tribalism coexist — the kind of region where so-called honor killings might occur.

There was no follow-up to ensure that her family did not harm her, according to a policeman familiar with the case, Mohammed Hmood.

"We don't know what happened to her after that," Hmood said. "If there's any scandal, they'd kill her immediately."

Despite potential violence against victims and the lack of follow-up, Kerik said in an August briefing that it was up to victims to go to the police. He did fire one police chief who did not investigate the rape of a 16-year-old girl and had urged a meeting of police commanders to take the issue seriously.

"I think the most important thing is that we make people understand that a woman who is raped or [a] victim of sexual abuse should be treated like a victim, just like any other crime," Kerik said.

But Raheem, the police colonel, said there had never been a problem in how rapes were dealt with in Iraq, and he knew of no recent changes to procedures.

"We have much more important cases now — real cases," said Raheem, visibly irritated by questions on police procedures for rape.

Dr. Enas Hamdani, deputy chief of Al Alwiyya hospital, Baghdad's main women's hospital, was similarly dismissive. "Oh, you're not going to ask me about that!" she said. "There are much more important problems we face in society at the moment."

Several rape victims who sought treatment at Baghdad hospitals were turned away, according to the Human Rights Watch report.

Among them was 9-year-old Senari, who had severe internal injuries but was initially refused treatment, although she was still bleeding two days after being raped. The girl's father said that his main priority was to get a medical report on whether she was still a virgin.

Senari's parents have since given her up to an orphanage.

Now 10, she seems distant and detached. Her eyes focus on a far-off point. She shrugged when asked about her parents.

"Why would I go home?" she asked.

Senari wants to be a doctor. Asked if she is bright, Sajda Dulayni, the manager of the orphanage, hesitated, then said briskly that Senari is excellent at cooking and washing the dishes.

Asked whether the child faces any psychological trauma, Dulayni brushed the idea aside. "She's put it behind her," she said. "She never thinks of it."
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I don't even know what to say thats just horrid.
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I can't think of what to say. Its horrendous.
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Re: Rape Victims Punished For Being Raped

dont men enjoy sex when a woman enjoys and wants sex? so what are they gaining? power? control? i dont understand its jusst showing them as weak in my eyes. taking something that is not givent o them as a gift is weak to me.
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Re: Re: Rape Victims Punished For Being Raped

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dont men enjoy sex when a woman enjoys and wants sex? so what are they gaining? power? control? i dont understand its jusst showing them as weak in my eyes. taking something that is not givent o them as a gift is weak to me.
I've always thought that too, but then I put more indepth thought into it. Some guys are just controlling and like domination. And some people are just sick in the head.
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Re: Rape Victims Punished For Being Raped

who cares? I don't care at all about any of those middle eastern people. They can rape and kill each other to extinction. They're all fighting over a god that isn't even there. I crack up when I hear about a bomber that blows himself up and doesn't even kill anybody, thats so great. It's all just a complete waste, and i'm sick of hearing about it.
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who cares? I don't care at all about any of those middle eastern people. They can rape and kill each other to extinction. They're all fighting over a god that isn't even there. I crack up when I hear about a bomber that blows himself up and doesn't even kill anybody, thats so great. It's all just a complete waste, and i'm sick of hearing about it.
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Re: Rape Victims Punished For Being Raped

mabey some of them get off having sex with a dead woman.....they let them go and the girl goes home, tells her parents....boom she's dead.....that could be part of the whole empowerment thing....not overpowering her and raping her, but controling wether she lives or dies....and raping is just a perk
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