Here's The Deal...PLEASE READ

[Suislide]

first of all, i am fucking ashamed to call this forum "mine" after that pitiful display in TheLogikal1's thread. i stopped reading it after the first post and dismissed it. that's EXACTLY what you all should have done. does it make any of you feel bigger or better to know you dissed someone on the other side of the country over the internet? i certainly hope not, because if so, you need a fucking life. that thread almost makes me want to turn in my moderatorship of this forum. i am that sick of this shit. this happens all the time. what are we, a bunch of fucking three year olds? NO! we are grown adults who have brains, so let's USE THEM when posting.

if you have beef with someone, KEEP IT TO PM'S OR OTHER PERSONAL MEDIUMS OF COMMUNICATION! DON'T bring your bullshit into public threads. i don't care how many of you have "beef" with other's, just bite your tongue (or typing fingers, in this case) and DON'T POST! how hard is that???

i can't believe some of what was said in that thread. you were arguing like children. i blame no-one in particular, because pretty much anyone who posted in there was flaming just as much as the next. i'm sick of it! can we all just get along? this forum is supposed to be a COMMUNITY of enthusiast who want to share their love of a certain thing, not a bunch of bickering assholes who all happen to own the same car.

i'm not sure if any of you have appealed to have stealthj banned yet. i have not checked the moderators forum yet to see if he was already banned, but if he hasn't been, then rest assured he will be. that little prick has done enough damage and it's time for it to stop. i kept giving him more chances because most of the time, he is a contributing member, but he steps over his boundaries way too often these days, trying to tell me what to do and thinking he can flame anyone anytime. well, he's about to learn the hard way that that kind of shit doesn't fly.

the rest of you. can we all just LIGHTEN UP please? i want to ENJOY these forums, not come in here every day having to close and ban and close and ban. it's not fun anymore. these forums are getting really pitiful, and i don't want to see that happen. so can we all just try to put the "beef" aside and get along?

i heartily thank those of you who decided against posting in that thread, and heartily thank any of you who agree with me that we need to get this place back to the way it was before.

please feel free to leave your thoughts and feedback underneath.

[S15_nz]

i totoally agree...
i might not have been in this forum too long but as far as ive seen the attitude of this forum has to change....You all should be grateful to have somebody who cares this much about the forum, and yet you give him this bs to put up with.

[RyanGiorgio]

I totally agree also. I used to come to this forum often. It would help me to learn more about a car I love. Recently I haven't been coming here often because instead of seeing facts or interesting threads about one of my favorite cars, I see all this bullshit fighting which is taking away from what this forum should be about. Is this the most controversial forum on AF? Possibly, but that is not a good thing and it needs some change. We need to drop the bullshit fighting and stick our interests together to make this place a MUCH better environment. I hope all of you have thoroughly read Brian's post, because if not, and this arguing and bullshit is still going on, I am positive that many people who come to this forum will stop coming and that will include myslef. Keep it real people, stay on topic and keep your fights off the threads, or this forum WILL slowly fall apart.

[mynismo]

thanks for banning stealth, he was a worthless little shit

[mrflip69]

Originally Posted by mynismo

thanks for banning stealth, he was a worthless little shit

Did you even read Ike's first post?

[AJtheMishima]

HOw long are you gonna ban stealth?

[Suislide]

Originally Posted by mrflip69

Did you even read Ike's first post?

did you? cause in my first post, i said he was a worthless prick too. and he was. it's the truth.

oh, and my name is Brian. thanks.

and stealthj has been permanently banned.

[mrflip69]

I wouldn't say worthless... what does that make him now? #3 of the main contributors of information to this forum to be banned? Lately he was being a bit of an ass, but I don't think it was necessary for him to be -permanently- banned. I urge you to reconsider your decision, it is possible he was having a bad week or just got fed up with some people. Was it SR20DET and Dorikin that you banned for a week to let them cool off? I don't even know if stealth even cares about being banned but he should be welcome to return if he changes his attitude.

[dayna240sx]

Originally Posted by mrflip69

I wouldn't say worthless... what does that make him now? #3 of the main contributors of information to this forum to be banned? Lately he was being a bit of an ass, but I don't think it was necessary for him to be -permanently- banned. I urge you to reconsider your decision, it is possible he was having a bad week or just got fed up with some people. Was it SR20DET and Dorikin that you banned for a week to let them cool off? I don't even know if stealth even cares about being banned but he should be welcome to return if he changes his attitude.

That guy was worthless, he was a little immature 17 year old who liked to start shit on the internet because he had nothing better to do. And who are the other 2 main contributor? Obviosly not that great of contributors if I cant remember them. I think you are in the minority of wanting stealth back.

I thank you Brain for getting rid of him, and I'm sorry I went along with it as I should have acted like the bigger one and shut my mouth.

[mrflip69]

You sincerely believe he was worthless? Look at the last few people he's helped. Look at his posts generally when he isn't flaming people. You can't deny that he had his share in contributing -accurate- information.

As to other major contributors, it was old_s13 and some other guy... This is way back before Brian was a moderator and had a Pontiac. How about that TatII guy too? I know he wasn't banned but a lot of the regulars who actually worked on their cars and use to give good info are looong gone. Also, who is the guy that was quoted in Dorikin's old sig?Something about the "general feeling of the community about bandwagon jumpers..." Don't get me wrong, there are still a few in here that are VERY helpful, but at this rate, they too are getting fed up and possibly leave as well (whether its on their own accord, or being banned after losing their marbles) --Just a shame.

Brian, please don't take this personally, but look at this thread:
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul...d.php?t=143498
There, you totally blew off the guy's question, saying it was the same engine, but the other people who posted proved you otherwise. People make mistakes, and again, with the vg30 thread that you just closed, you blew off the main question saying "you didn't see the point" and that the engine was a "clunky old SOHC" not worth the LOAD of "custom fab", but lo-and behold, he proved you and everybody else wrong. Theres a great example of someone talking about a swap, and then actually going and proceeding to do it! -- In fact, he didn't even tell anybody but went about it on his own, which I REALLY respect.

Now my intention isn't to attack you, or anybody else, but just give people a chance before you judge them and stop assuming the worst. Now that we know he's trying to put in the VG30 SOHC not DOHC, we have yet another -pioneer- if you will, to test out those capabilities.

mynismo: I know times have been rough lately, but you've been really pissy at people the last few days. There was the guy with the 2jz thread who you got all upset over and telling him not to do it because it's a "toyota" (look back and you'll see that you asked the same question and you didn't even know that the 2jz was a supra engine), And recently, the guy who just proved you wrong about the vg30, and how about the guy in the engine poll who you called a "jspec" wannabe? If i recall, you wanted to swap in an RB25 loooong ago when you had your 240. You asked clutch why didn't he swap the VQ30 rather than the VG30? Hmm... I DO know for a fact that you've started old threads saying how sweet it would be to swap the vg30 into the 240, and even pointed out the engine and the car with the actual swap done, linked from ebay. Vq30... that wouldn't have anything to do with you getting a maxima now would it? I'm sure you didn't like it when people got on your case for asking "stupid" questions... don't go out and do the same thing to others!

It was said by someone else who I forgot.. but here it is again:
Many of you forget where you came from. The MAJORITY of you were newbies at one point, and you relied on the people of the forum to help you out. Now that you have info, you feel sick of sharing it with newbies that were once like yourselves, which is just plain selfish. To those of you who have been repeating information over and over, I can sympathize with, but it wouldn't hurt to point people in the right direction (search button/240sx links/google...) "Nobody was born with Nissan knowledge" so don't expect them to know what you think is common sense.

[CrzyMR2T]

Originally Posted by mrflip69

I wouldn't say worthless... what does that make him now? #3 of the main contributors of information to this forum to be banned? Lately he was being a bit of an ass, but I don't think it was necessary for him to be -permanently- banned. I urge you to reconsider your decision, it is possible he was having a bad week or just got fed up with some people. Was it SR20DET and Dorikin that you banned for a week to let them cool off? I don't even know if stealth even cares about being banned but he should be welcome to return if he changes his attitude.

it was dorikin, and i that got banned for a week to cool off. dorikin got banned, cause he wouldnt stop fighting, while i almost got banned, but then i got banned too, cause i was in a fight with stealth.

i have to agree with ike, im not saying i was perfect or anything, but we really need to stop bullshitting, and start getting serious.

[dayna240sx]

Originally Posted by mrflip69

You sincerely believe he was worthless? Look at the last few people he's helped. Look at his posts generally when he isn't flaming people. You can't deny that he had his share in contributing -accurate- information.

As to other major contributors, it was old_s13 and some other guy... This is way back before Brian was a moderator and had a Pontiac. How about that TatII guy too? I know he wasn't banned but a lot of the regulars who actually worked on their cars and use to give good info are looong gone. Also, who is the guy that was quoted in Dorikin's old sig?Something about the "general feeling of the community about bandwagon jumpers..." Don't get me wrong, there are still a few in here that are VERY helpful, but at this rate, they too are getting fed up and possibly leave as well (whether its on their own accord, or being banned after losing their marbles) --Just a shame.

Many of you forget where you came from. The MAJORITY of you were newbies at one point, and you relied on the people of the forum to help you out. Now that you have info, you feel sick of sharing it with newbies that were once like yourselves, which is just plain selfish.

Yes, I sincerly think he was worthless. Maybe he did give some good info now and then, but most of us here could of given the same info without flaming others. I'm pretty sure he didnt care if he was banned or not because he would of stoped after the first couple of warnings.

Also, it says you joined in August way after Mike (old_s13) got banned. So I dont know if you just read all his old posts or what but you didnt see the whole picture. Mike wanted banned, he let one of his friends get on his name and make fun of all the mods.
"Also, who is the guy that was quoted in Dorikin's old sig?Something about the "general feeling of the community about bandwagon jumpers..." " That was Mike. So you see, he was getting sick of this forum too, otherwise he wouldnt of wanted banned.

And about TatII and some of the other regulars, you are basicly prooving my point. I'm not positive this is why, but they probably left because of people like stealth. They were probably sick of all the bullshit newbies ask and all the flaming going on.

Your right, all of us were newbies at one point, but the ones who stick around and not get flamed all the time are the ones who ask intellegent questions that would be difficult to just look up somewhere on the internet or the faq section.

I'm getting tired of the 240 forum. All it seems to be is sr20 vs ka24 questions. And its dumb because most of the guys who ask will never do a swap, they just want to sound cool. I dont have my 240sx anymore so maybe thats why I dont read this forum as much as I used to.

[TheLogikal1]

Originally Posted by mrflip69

You sincerely believe he was worthless? Look at the last few people he's helped. Look at his posts generally when he isn't flaming people. You can't deny that he had his share in contributing -accurate- information.

As to other major contributors, it was old_s13 and some other guy... This is way back before Brian was a moderator and had a Pontiac. How about that TatII guy too? I know he wasn't banned but a lot of the regulars who actually worked on their cars and use to give good info are looong gone. Also, who is the guy that was quoted in Dorikin's old sig?Something about the "general feeling of the community about bandwagon jumpers..." Don't get me wrong, there are still a few in here that are VERY helpful, but at this rate, they too are getting fed up and possibly leave as well (whether its on their own accord, or being banned after losing their marbles) --Just a shame.

Brian, please don't take this personally, but look at this thread:
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul...d.php?t=143498
There, you totally blew off the guy's question, saying it was the same engine, but the other people who posted proved you otherwise. People make mistakes, and again, with the vg30 thread that you just closed, you blew off the main question saying "you didn't see the point" and that the engine was a "clunky old SOHC" not worth the LOAD of "custom fab", but lo-and behold, he proved you and everybody else wrong. Theres a great example of someone talking about a swap, and then actually going and proceeding to do it! -- In fact, he didn't even tell anybody but went about it on his own, which I REALLY respect.

Now my intention isn't to attack you, or anybody else, but just give people a chance before you judge them and stop assuming the worst. Now that we know he's trying to put in the VG30 SOHC not DOHC, we have yet another -pioneer- if you will, to test out those capabilities.

mynismo: I know times have been rough lately, but you've been really pissy at people the last few days. There was the guy with the 2jz thread who you got all upset over and telling him not to do it because it's a "toyota" (look back and you'll see that you asked the same question and you didn't even know that the 2jz was a supra engine), And recently, the guy who just proved you wrong about the vg30, and how about the guy in the engine poll who you called a "jspec" wannabe? If i recall, you wanted to swap in an RB25 loooong ago when you had your 240. You asked clutch why didn't he swap the VQ30 rather than the VG30? Hmm... I DO know for a fact that you've started old threads saying how sweet it would be to swap the vg30 into the 240, and even pointed out the engine and the car with the actual swap done, linked from ebay. Vq30... that wouldn't have anything to do with you getting a maxima now would it? I'm sure you didn't like it when people got on your case for asking "stupid" questions... don't go out and do the same thing to others!

It was said by someone else who I forgot.. but here it is again:
Many of you forget where you came from. The MAJORITY of you were newbies at one point, and you relied on the people of the forum to help you out. Now that you have info, you feel sick of sharing it with newbies that were once like yourselves, which is just plain selfish. To those of you who have been repeating information over and over, I can sympathize with, but it wouldn't hurt to point people in the right direction (search button/240sx links/google...) "Nobody was born with Nissan knowledge" so don't expect them to know what you think is common sense.

werd. this guy rationalizes. something we should all do. this forum has gone through so much bs, that i think yall turned me into somekinda pacifist hippy...

now who's up for some bubbletea?



wheres the love yall....

[publicenemy137]

yeah I guess I'm just not going to get involved in anything other than 240sx's anymore. From now on, I'll only read 240sx posts, ask 240sx questions, and no other questions that would deviate from the above. If I want to talk to someone or say something to someone personally, I'll e-mail/IM/PM, there's no point in posting it in the public forums and letting other people read it because it'll only bring stupid shit in the forums and get people pissed off.

[Fliquer]

Im all for objective arguments. Thats just it though - keep it OBJECTIVE.