-
Grand Future Air Dried Beef Dog Food
Air Dried Dog Food | Real Beef

Carnivore Diet for Dogs

Go Back   Automotive Forums Car Chat > Engineering/ Technical
Register FAQ Community
Engineering/ Technical Ask technical questions about cars. Do you know how a car engine works?
Reply Show Printable Version Show Printable Version | Subscription Subscribe to this Thread
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 09-13-2003, 10:05 PM
Buzz1167 Buzz1167 is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 138
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to Buzz1167 Send a message via MSN to Buzz1167
Newbie to engine mods

Hi everyone, I have a 97 crv (b20b?), and it has always been underpowered (126hp). I wanted to get some more out of it. I was going to goto the local "u wrench it" and take a b16 head off of a (del sol?), I read that the b16 is the best (pricetoperformace) for this. But I wanted to make sure of what I'm going to need to do before I go all out. I just want a head swap right now, nothing more. I can always get pistons/rods, and upgrades later. Right now im just looking for something to build off of. I just would like some input on what everyone here thinks I need to do, with regards to buying parts or getting stuff done.
I have read that you have to build yourself an oil line to the vtec oil supply (which I guess is not in the std version). I think I can reuse the gasket, and buff away some of the carbon deposits (its got 96000mi on it) and just plop the new head on it, Would I be correct or am I missing something else? Do I need a new ecu, header, intake for any of this? I thought asking in advance would be the best solution, becuase I might be able to take everything at once, And if I cant get it from a Del sol, is there another car I should be looking at?

Thanks in advance,
Buzz1167
Jon N
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 09-16-2003, 03:37 AM
jaybeezi jaybeezi is offline
AF Newbie
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 6
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to jaybeezi
The b16 is the best head to use because it flows better than a gsr head, i have not done the swap before, and dont know all of the details off the top of my head, but i would not use the same headgasket, yes you need the ecu, and you can also get the head off of a newer Civic Si like a 99.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-17-2003, 05:34 AM
KrNxRaCer00's Avatar
KrNxRaCer00 KrNxRaCer00 is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 2,846
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to KrNxRaCer00 Send a message via Yahoo to KrNxRaCer00
jay is correct, the b16 is by far the best head of the b-series motors (which are the only one's u'd be able to swap on, without spending WAY too much money and effort).

hey, if they used it on the b18c5 (ITR motor) then obviously its got something going eh?
__________________
2003 Infiniti G35

99 Yamaha YZF-R6 (sold)
2000 Acura Integra Type R (sold)
1994 Acura Integra GSR (retired/sold)
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-17-2003, 11:04 AM
Ricochet's Avatar
Ricochet Ricochet is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 5,591
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
If you're rich get a B16B (Civic Type R) head. They flow better than even the Integra Type R
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-17-2003, 06:21 PM
Buzz1167 Buzz1167 is offline
AF Enthusiast
Thread starter
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 138
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to Buzz1167 Send a message via MSN to Buzz1167
Ok, so its settled. Ill find a 99civicsi or a del sol for the b16a head. Then Im gonna need to take the ECU from that car also. Do I need anything else? I know I can't advance the timing or do any mods until I get pistons, but will everything else bolt up? - except the oil line.

Thanks,
Buzz1167
Jon
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-17-2003, 06:47 PM
Bambooseven's Avatar
Bambooseven Bambooseven is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 170
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
you have to relocate the dowel holes also. Good luck finding the head at a pick-your-part though. most junkyards know what that is by now and if they do even have one, they'll rape you for it.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09-17-2003, 10:47 PM
Ricochet's Avatar
Ricochet Ricochet is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 5,591
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Re: Newbie to engine mods

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bambooseven
you have to relocate the dowel holes also. Good luck finding the head at a pick-your-part though. most junkyards know what that is by now and if they do even have one, they'll rape you for it.
Yup. A local junkyard here wanted $3000 for an Si engine... total bs.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 09-18-2003, 11:45 PM
90CRXZCSi's Avatar
90CRXZCSi 90CRXZCSi is offline
AF Fanatic
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 1,823
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to 90CRXZCSi Send a message via Yahoo to 90CRXZCSi
that would be pretty sweet to have a CRV with CRVTEC tho. a Bump from 126hp to about 200 would be nice.
__________________
2004 Sonic Blue Ford Ranger XLT
2001 Liquid Grey Metallic Ford Focus ZX3
1995 Integra GS-R - Parting out
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 09-19-2003, 09:26 AM
Ricochet's Avatar
Ricochet Ricochet is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 5,591
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Re: Newbie to engine mods

Quote:
Originally Posted by 90CRXZCSi
that would be pretty sweet to have a CRV with CRVTEC tho. a Bump from 126hp to about 200 would be nice.
Too bad it's actually going in a CRV though
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 09-19-2003, 04:43 PM
Plastic_Fork's Avatar
Plastic_Fork Plastic_Fork is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 1,011
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Quote:
Ok, so its settled. Ill find a 99civicsi or a del sol for the b16a head.
If you get one from a Del Sol, make sure you go for the VTEC model. The S and Si models have D-series motors. They did not make the VTEC model in 1993, so you'll need at least one from 1994 and up. 1997 was the last year they were made.

'94 and '95 models came with the B16A3 engine, and the '96 and '97 models came with the B16A2 engine.
__________________

1995 Honda CRX del Sol VTEC
Manufactured: Suzuka, Japan
Production Sequence #1269

Team Del Sol member #1131
HondaVision: Team Sol Forum - Home of Team Del Sol

__________________
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 09-19-2003, 08:52 PM
90CRXZCSi's Avatar
90CRXZCSi 90CRXZCSi is offline
AF Fanatic
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 1,823
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to 90CRXZCSi Send a message via Yahoo to 90CRXZCSi
yea but i think it would be pretty sweet to see a CRV smokin somethin or hearin the VTEC blare. Just something you wouldnt expect out of a CRV..
__________________
2004 Sonic Blue Ford Ranger XLT
2001 Liquid Grey Metallic Ford Focus ZX3
1995 Integra GS-R - Parting out
Reply With Quote
 
Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
newby engine question civic88dx '88 - '91 Civic | CRX | Wagon | Shuttlee 6 04-10-2005 11:57 PM
S14 engine mods and body kits Kerpalstaxi 240SX | Silvia | 200SX(RWD) | Gazelle | 180SX 10 03-02-2003 02:00 AM
Starting engine mods--where do I start? eclipseproject Engine, Transmission and Drivetrain 5 03-13-2002 08:48 PM
Engine Mods for a Turbo or Supercharger? hiphopsk8er27 '92-'95 Civic | EL | Civic Hybrid | Civic GX NGV 11 02-05-2002 06:20 PM
Newbie Needs Mod Info For RSX Type S mikelemo Integra 0 12-31-2001 03:49 AM

Reply

POST REPLY TO THIS THREAD

Go Back   Automotive Forums Car Chat > Engineering/ Technical


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:11 AM.

Community Participation Guidelines | How to use your User Control Panel

Powered by: vBulletin | Copyright Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
 
 
no new posts