Another accusation for Michelin

[ales]

Here you go! Hope it's not true.

[RallyRaider]

Wonder where that rumour originated

Somebody get down to Ladoux and take rubber samples from the track surface pronto. And get those satelite photos of Fiorano analysed as well.

[freakray]

Are FerrariStone really that desperate?

[ales]

Originally Posted by freakray

Are FerrariStone really that desperate?

Are Micheatilin that desperate?

[z33guy]

Originally Posted by freakray

Are FerrariStone really that desperate?

yes

[freakray]

Originally Posted by ales

Are Micheatilin that desperate?

All your accusations, aside from allegations of 'we have proof' where is it?
If there was some difinitive proof of these allegations, I will accept that Michelin acted outside the rules, but so far I have seen nothing (did Ferrari take one out of G.W's book on Iraq?).

I never thought of you as a blind follower Alex.

[ales]

Why am I a blind follower? I am just relaying the news, Patric Head said he heard the rumor, fgs. I even said I hoped it wasn't true. Who said anything about Ferrari or Bridgestone here? It might as well be some French farmers spotting the test for all we know. But hey, let's all bash Ferrari just for good measure.

Ferrari ask for clarification of a rule - unsportsmanship (as opposed to the "sportsmanship" of not asking for a clarification by Michelin). A rumour circulating in the pitlane and relayed by journalists at a press conference with Patrick Head making a comment with no mention of Ferrari or Bridgestone whatsoever - Ferrari desperate (as opposed to Michelin, if the rumour is true, running an illegal test). And I'm the one who's the blind follower. My "Micheatin" comment is just trying to give you a taste o your own medicine. Doesn't taste that good, does it?

Blind Follower

[freakray]

Originally Posted by ales

Why am I a blind follower? I am just relaying the news, Patric Head said he heard the rumor, fgs. I even said I hoped it wasn't true. Who said anything about Ferrari or Bridgestone here? It might as well be some French farmers spotting the test for all we know. But hey, let's all bash Ferrari just for good measure.

Ferrari ask for clarification of a rule - unsportsmanship (as opposed to the "sportsmanship" of not asking for a clarification by Michelin). A rumour circulating in the pitlane and relayed by journalists at a press conference with Patrick Head making a comment with no mention of Ferrari or Bridgestone whatsoever - Ferrari desperate (as opposed to Michelin, if the rumour is true, running an illegal test). And I'm the one who's the blind follower. My "Micheatin" comment is just trying to give you a taste o your own medicine. Doesn't taste that good, does it?

Blind Follower

If you're trying to get to me, you'll have to try harder.

The reason I said you seemed like you were being a blind follower was because of your Micheatilin comment, nothing else.

[ales]

Originally Posted by freakray

If you're trying to get to me, you'll have to try harder.

The reason I said you seemed like you were being a blind follower was because of your Micheatilin comment, nothing else.

And my Micheatlin comment was mainly because of your Ferraristone comment.

[RallyRaider]

Originally Posted by ales

And my Micheatlin comment was mainly because of your Ferraristone comment.

You went off the handle over the term Ferraristone?

Alex, I have been using that term for ages. It mainly harks back to 2001-2002 when Ferrari and Bridgestone implemented their close relationship to integrate the car and tyre as one. To the detriment of their other teams. Lately the two are co-operating in a different manner.

Bridgestone are a disreputable organisation in my opinion, an example of the very worst in Japanese business practice.

[ales]

You call that going off the handle?

Not the term, but rather the use of it here. Blaming everything on Ferrari - that's the part I don't understand. I don't give a fudge about Bridgestone, or Michelin, for that matter - they're just tyre companies, not sure if there are any "Bridgestone fans" or "Michelin fans", I surel am not one of them. MIght as well throw them both out and replace it with Avon - I don't care. Considering how much difference a tyre can make nowadays I'm starting to support the idea of a single tyre series. I am, however, thankful to Bridgestone for bringing the championships to my favourite driver, something you should be after 99 and especially 98.

[RallyRaider]

Originally Posted by ales

You call that going off the handle?

Not the term, but rather the use of it here. Blaming everything on Ferrari - that's the part I don't understand. I don't give a fudge about Bridgestone, or Michelin, for that matter - they're just tyre companies, not sure if there are any "Bridgestone fans" or "Michelin fans", I surel am not one of them. MIght as well throw them both out and replace it with Avon - I don't care. Considering how much difference a tyre can make nowadays I'm starting to support the idea of a single tyre series. I am, however, thankful to Bridgestone for bringing the championships to my favourite driver, something you should be after 99 and especially 98.

Na Bridgestone had set their pattern of behaviour as early as 1998, I gave them the benifit of the doubt at the time, silly me. Their behaviour when they were the one make of tyre in the series was shameful.

[freakray]

Originally Posted by ales

And my Micheatlin comment was mainly because of your Ferraristone comment.

I didn't realise this was a school yard

But in the case it is, 'Ferrari' is now the 'F' word
Instead of saying 'bastard' we will say 'bridgestone'
A$$hole will be replaced by 'Stoddy'
'clueless moron' will be substituted with 'Mosley'
'bully' will be substituted with 'bernie'
For Alex, cheating will be referred to as 'michelining'

Anyone think of any others (the others I can think of I won't post here )

[ugly kid jon]

Originally Posted by freakray

I didn't realise this was a school yard

But in the case it is, 'Ferrari' is now the 'F' word
Instead of saying 'bastard' we will say 'bridgestone'
A$$hole will be replaced by 'Stoddy'
'clueless moron' will be substituted with 'Mosley'
'bully' will be substituted with 'bernie'
For Alex, cheating will be referred to as 'michelining'

Anyone think of any others (the others I can think of I won't post here )

Do you always try so hard?

[Focus2000]

Come on kids, play nicely or I'll have to bang your heads together