i need drifting help and d1gp

[integ1992]

hey!!!! i just got back from d1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!it was amazing omg.......thats all i can say and ken nomura is the best even tho he didnt win he sure won the fans tho ok but yea i have a 92 acura integra front whell drive i know i know and i can drift using the ebrake but its not the same u know well i have to keep this teg for around 3-4 years then i eather going for an evo, skyline, or a nissan s13 or 14 but what do u think i can do to make my teg an drifting car manily drift but need to drive to school and around and have to pass smog um name everthink u know!!!!please i have an ok amount of money and hmm can u make a ff into a real wheel drive car well at lest it is a stick is there any way of making a front wheel car into a real wheel car and if not what should i do to my in teg and how can i make me drift with out pulling the e-brake ever damn turn and i was wounder if i can set it up for a left foot braking and thanx for all ur help

[jdmkenji]

nooooooooooooooooohhhhh!!!!!!

[Suislide]

ahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

"cho guy i went to D1 to see the phat drifting yo and now i want to be a 1337 dr1f70r with my m4d 7y73 RWD Integra."

bandwagon jumper.

[Dorikin]

Originally Posted by jdmkenji

nooooooooooooooooohhhhh!!!!!!

Kenji-Now you understand why im the way I am.

Go away. Forget you ever saw drifting. You will try, and fail miserably, and crash your car and NEVER gain the respect of your peers. Your parents will disown you. The D1 drivers will come in the night and cut off your genitals.

Dont come here. Dont assosiate yourself with drifting. You are not wanted. You wont get an Evo, Skyline, S13, Yugp etc. because our secret drifter network has been alerted not to sell these cars to anyone whos been influenced by D1 or owns an FF. You are a marked man.

Yes we are ENORMOUS haters. I am. jdmkenji is fairly docile and open minded, but when we see people like you, we get mad. Piss of

That is all.

Clif Notes: STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM DRIFTING DA6 BOY!!!

[jdmkenji]

dorikin u are crazy!

[Dorikin]

Originally Posted by jdmkenji

dorikin u are crazy!

Thats me

[Frostbyte]

For the last time you cannot drift a FF car. Pulling the e-brake is not drifting it is e-brake sliding.

[jdmkenji]

start double clutching and stop the granny shifting!

[Ace$nyper]

You guys are no help to a drift fan what a bunch of you guys are i'll spell it you for him step 1 take your teg and drive in reverse really fast step 2 yank e-brake mash into a tree step 3 lose licsnce forever never get near a car again this is y us h/a guys get a bad name!

[jdmkenji]

seriously, if you want to learn... learn on the right platform... get a lightweight rwd car that has tons of aftermarket support like the 240sx. get suspension and LSD, dont even mod the engine yet... save your money and go get some track time...

[Dorikin]

Originally Posted by jdmkenji

start double clutching and stop the granny shifting!

F&F is your bible

[Corey I RanciD]

Ok integ1992, first step is ignore everyone else who has posted in this thread so far. I'll try to make up for the sheer ignorance posted so far with something useable. Everyone else should listen too, you've all got a lot to learn apparently. "Bandwagon jumper" or not, this guy wants to learn how to drift so why flame him? More drifters means more people buying parts, more people buying parts mean more market, more market will bring competition and therefore lower prices. Even if prices don't get lowered, if more people are in the market for these parts then more companies will try to get involved in getting quality parts into the market. We should be helping people who want to get into this instead of flaming them. So he drives a front wheel drive car now and saw D1GP so he wants to start drifting. How does that make him any better than you guys? Cause he doesn't own 150 Option videos? Seriously, everyone has to start somewhere. If we don't point him in the right direction then he's going to end up pulling the e-brake on public streets giving us all a bad name because you guys refuse to teach him any better. Drifting is becoming increasingly popular, deal with it. We need to keep it off the streets though or we'll all get a bad reputation. You think the police care if you flamed the guys causing the problem on some message board? In their eyes you're just as bad as the guy they pulled out of a ditch last night because he was immitating "2 Fast 2 Furious".

Anyway, sorry about that integ1992. Sorry about the earlier bit. Here's some answers for you..

Using the e-brake is a pretty basic technique for drifting with both front and rear wheel drive layouts. A lot of the skills you'll use drifting in your Integra can later be applied when drifting in a rear wheel drive car too so when you eventually do get a rear wheel drive car you'll have a big head start. Don't believe what most people are going to tell you though.. a front wheel drive car CAN drift.

As far as converting an Integra to rear wheel drive, yes it's possible. With money anything is possible. Is it worth it? Definitly not. Your Integra is capable of drifting already and it would cost so much and take so much fabrication and modification to convert the Integra to rear wheel drive it's definitly just not worth it.

Setting up your car for drifting will help you a LOT. You don't have to worry about passing smog and such, you don't even need to touch the engine. Doing a few bolts-ons like header, exhaust, etc. wouldn't hurt. Intakes are pretty common but for drifting I'd just modify the stock air box. 99% of the time the stock air box with a little modification will provide better throttle response than a long chrome pipe will. Throttle response is a lot more important when drifting than two or three more horsepower at 7000 RPM. What you really want to focus on to set your car up to drift is your suspension. Strut tower bars, sway bars, adjustable coilovers (or spring/shock combos), pillowball mounts, etc. are the stuff you should be looking at. I'd start with some strut tower bars and a good spring/shock combo. Depending on what you get you may need to fix your camber with pillowball mounts or control arms, but if you get a stock replacement strut like KYB AGXs (which I'd reccomend, high quality and inexpensive) and springs that don't drop the car too much you'll be fine. For springs I'd reccomend linear wound ones. Most of the lowering springs these days are progressively wound so watch out. Linear springs make the car more predictable in turns because the spring rate won't change as your corner harder. KG/MM and RS*R make good, affordable linear springs. If you can find some high quality adjustable strut bars those would be great. I've never owned a Honda so I'm not sure what brands to look for, but Hondas have so big an aftermarket that I'm sure you can find something. Adjustables would be preferable because you can use them to help tune your car for more oversteer and to personal preference. So that's a few things to look for for now.

Now.. tuning. With adjustable struts you've really just got find your own preference. You could just stay with a middle setting on both front and rear if you don't really want to deal with it, but I'd reccomend you just play with them and find out what you like. The strut bars.. you're going to want to adjust the rear to be stiffer than the front. This will set the car up to oversteer. Also, the adjustable bars will let you easily undo these settings to go back to daily driving without putting yourself and others at risk of you losing control of the car because of your adjustments. Remember.. keep your drifting to the track. It's safer, it's more fun, it's LEGAL. Don't ruin it for yourself or the rest of us, KEEP IT ON THE TRACK!

As for technique.. honestly, I haven't done a whole lot of drifting in front wheel drive cars so it'd be best to talk to someone more experienced, but I can tell you some basics. What you've been doing is a good start. Keep practicing with the e-brake.. try to practice using it to correct your line mid-drift and you'll get a lot better. Another common way of drifting in a front wheel drive car is a braking drift. Because the front is a lot heavier than the rear of the car by braking as you turn into a corner you can cause the rear end to swing out around the car then countersteer the front wheels to control it. When using this technique it helps a lot to have tuned suspension like I mentioned above. Without strut bars and stiff springs it may not be easy to do this because instead of kicking out the suspension will be too sloppy.

So read over this and let me know what you think. If you want to talk to me about it some more without everyone else flaming you can AIM me (coreyirancid) or e-mail me ([email protected]). I hope this helped.. have fun drifting!

And remember.. KEEP IT AT THE TRACK!

[Dorikin]

Originally Posted by jdmkenji

seriously, if you want to learn... learn on the right platform... get a lightweight rwd car that has tons of aftermarket support like the 240sx. get suspension and LSD, dont even mod the engine yet... save your money and go get some track time...

Dont bother with the Integra dude. Since people belive FF drift exists, Ill put it this way. FF drifting is a SERIOUS SERIOUS handicap.

[Corey I RanciD]

Originally Posted by Dorikin

Dont bother with the Integra dude. Since people belive FF drift exists, Ill put it this way. FF drifting is a SERIOUS SERIOUS handicap.

And thank you for another waste of a post. Seriously, what do you guys have against this guy?

[MDiGiamm]

Originally Posted by Frostbyte

For the last time you cannot drift a FF car. Pulling the e-brake is not drifting it is e-brake sliding.

I believe the technical term is "Ass dragging". At least it is for me.