Non-Aligned Drift Cars

[Dorikin]

Alright, everyone makes a big deal out of 240SX/S-CHassis and AE86. What do you think could make a good car for our favriote motorsport, but gets no recognition

For Me

Mazda RX7
Infiniti M30
Infiniti J30
Toyota Cressida
Toyota Supra(MA70)
Nissan/Datsun Z Cars
Merkur Scorpio
Chevy Chevvete
Camaro
Firebird
Porsche 944
BMW E36 3-series
BMW E39 5-series(with electronic aides off)
Buick Grand National
Lexus IS300
Lexus SC400/SC300
Old Caddy Deville
Chevy Impala SS
Chevy Caprice Police Package
Ford Crown Vic Police Package
Mazda Miata
Toyota Starlet
Toyota Celica And Corrolla(All Pre-1986 Celicas were RWD, All pre 1984 Corrollas were RWD)
Datsun 510
Mazda RX-2, RX-3 etc.

[BLU CIVIC]

you said all the ones i was....

how about a truck

[2strokebloke]

I love the RX-2, but they're so hard to find these days.

Very nice looking cars.
Toyota starlet for sure(needs more power), but the RWD corollas are not too suited I think, they tend to understeer, even when pushed (like I've said, the FWD Corolla-Tercel understeers less than the RWD corollas of the same years, 1980-1982) Though with a stronger engine, who knows what one could do?
The Toyota Cressida, a big heavy luxury sedan - but with surprisingly sporty performance - definately a good candidate.
And the little Chevy Chevette, with alot more power could probably slide with the best of them (otherwise it's mostly just good for donuts in a parking lot)

Some of Japan's earlier rear engined Kei Jidosha could possiby do it, but because of how small they are they'd have a hard time going all the way through the corners the larger cars can (but around even tighter corners would probably be good)
I nominate the Suzuki Fronte SSS, and the Subaru 360 SS.

I can't belive you left out the Japanese/American Dodge Colt (of the 70's)

[Amish_kid]

Buick GN's are too heavy to drift unless your driving in the snow, haha and I should know I own 2 other Gm cars built on the same platform. The car is made more to straight line power not to get sideways in the corners.

[Dorikin]

Originally posted by Amish_kid
Buick GN's are too heavy to drift unless your driving in the snow, haha and I should know I own 2 other Gm cars built on the same platform. The car is made more to straight line power not to get sideways in the corners.

Ya but with twin turbo V6 power

Trucks are too tall and have a shitty center of gravity, so you would roll before you drifted.

I like the K-Cars, but theyre so rare I wouldnt wanna wreck one

[Amish_kid]

Originally posted by Dorikin



Ya but with twin turbo V6 power

Trucks are too tall and have a shitty center of gravity, so you would roll before you drifted.

I like the K-Cars, but theyre so rare I wouldnt wanna wreck one

K-cars rare???
geez man you live under a rock I could probably go out and buy one with less than what is in my pocket right now at about 10 different places and that is without ever looking.
(btw the Gn was only single turbo )

[Suislide]

Originally posted by Amish_kid


K-cars rare???
geez man you live under a rock I could probably go out and buy one with less than what is in my pocket right now at about 10 different places and that is without ever looking.
(btw the Gn was only single turbo )

OLD K-cars he means.

derek - i think the RX-7 and IS300 receive enough attention in Japan to not be on that list. and i've heard bad things about MA70's drifting. apparently they're too heavy. an MA61 would be sweet though.

what about the Mitsu Starion and Chrysler Conquest TSi? or the old Datsun pick-up trucks that were based on their small cars (like Josh from Oki has)? or Datsun 510's and all their other small RWD cars. GT-S Skylines are somewhat over-looked when compared to most of the more popular Japanese cars...S12 Silvia's are definitley over-looked, as are Z31 300ZX's.

[LanEvo]

I've heard bad things bout the MA70 too, but my garage got this video of several top performance cars in differnet forms racing, straightline motorcross, and of course drifting, (it's hilarious to watch an impreza call it's ass draging a form of drifting, it's a friggin tank). Anyways, toyota chalked up the MA70, and it wasn't that bad at all, it compinsates for being so heavy with pure power, the driver must have been shiftlocking to drift, or maybe faint drift, cause it was hella slow, but the way he came outta those corners was kick ass, it has heavily tuned tho, twin turbo and a V8 kicking near 500hp or sumtin like that, i didn't really catch the specs i was rotating some tires on a grand prix.

But i suppose to remain street legal and not to have a cost that will ruin your credit rating (not to mention your unborn children's) completley ruined. the MA61 would be a better choice, also you didn't mention the RX-8, it's pretty nice. Or at least from what i've seen of it. Hmm but truly the Z series from nissan is what it's all about man.


hmm, think think think , oh did you mention the NSX? Gotta throw that in, but we are coming back to breaking the bank.

[Layla's Keeper]

It may be a bit large, but I like to see the new Infiniti M45 as a potential drift machine.

I think it's the Nissan Gloria or Cima in Japan???? But it does have decent suspension under it and the big 4.5L V8 from the Q.

Also, what about Cadillac CTS's and the Lincoln LS? Again, I know they're big but they've got torquey engines, RWD, and up to date suspensions.

I figure they'd be in the same league as the Toyota Chaser sedans that are used sometimes in Japan.

And boy howdy do I agree with the Starion as a choice. Mitsubishi designed those things to have crazy oversteer (thought that was what sports car enthusiasts in the rest of the world wanted). Plus they're pretty cheap these days because they're still an "underground" car.

[Suislide]

Originally posted by Octagon
It may be a bit large, but I like to see the new Infiniti M45 as a potential drift machine.

I think it's the Nissan Gloria or Cima in Japan???? But it does have decent suspension under it and the big 4.5L V8 from the Q.

Also, what about Cadillac CTS's and the Lincoln LS? Again, I know they're big but they've got torquey engines, RWD, and up to date suspensions.

I figure they'd be in the same league as the Toyota Chaser sedans that are used sometimes in Japan.

And boy howdy do I agree with the Starion as a choice. Mitsubishi designed those things to have crazy oversteer (thought that was what sports car enthusiasts in the rest of the world wanted). Plus they're pretty cheap these days because they're still an "underground" car.

exactly. they're fairly rare. actually, if you go into the classifieds section of Club4AG.com, some guy from Seattle is selling a mint red Starion (dunno if it's turbo or not) for $1300 US. $1300! for that drop-dead sexy, rare machine. i'd go for it were it not on the other side of the continent.

i saw a Conquest TSi the other day around here with Florida plates on it. the things are gorgeous in person. they're extremely rare in Canada as they nor the Starion were ever sold up here.

and you're right, Octy, the M45 is the same body as the current-gen Y34 Nissan Gloria and Nissan Cedric in Japan. the Cima is the Q45.

[Jay!]

Corvairs!

More wagons, too...

[Moppie]

All the RWD Turbo Skylines are used frequently in Japan, Iv seen several vids and DVDs at shows with lots of usualy R32 GTS-ts drifting, but the old R30 is a great drift car, find some old footage or photos of Australian Touring Car racing from the late 80s, a Kiwi by the name of Jim Richards became famous for being one of the few ppl alive who could keep a fully wound up R31 going in a straight line.

RWD Ford Siera Cosworth, Iv already heard of these being used in the UK.

S2000 (its a Given really)

Old Honda S600, not much with the stock engine, but with a Bike engine it would be a blast

Series V RX7, they step the tail out with very little effort, but still allow you to control it.

Lotus/Caterham 7 and any of the other look a like Kit Cars, just watch a Clubman class race and your garunteed to see at least one doing some drifting.

Triumph TR7 V8. This car was made for Drifting, and thats exactly how it likes to be driven, infact they have been proven to be the only car in existance that goes faster around a corner sideways than straight.

Maserati BiTurbo. Trust me

Datsun 120Y and 180B, light weight with easy to work on engines, or chuck them away and fit an SR20det.

RWD Mazda 323, yes the early one's were RWD, and make good homes for early 12a/13a Rotorys, Iv seen more than few going sideways under boost.

The wheel base on the RWD Starlets is a little to short, and they tend to be hard to control, while the RWD Celicas are reknowned for being terriable understeerers, I wouldn't think the amount of work required to sort it out would really be worth it.

And who used Cressida and Performance in the same sentance

[Amish_kid]

Originally posted by Octagon
It may be a bit large, but I like to see the new Infiniti M45 as a potential drift machine.

I think it's the Nissan Gloria or Cima in Japan???? But it does have decent suspension under it and the big 4.5L V8 from the Q.

Also, what about Cadillac CTS's and the Lincoln LS? Again, I know they're big but they've got torquey engines, RWD, and up to date suspensions.

I figure they'd be in the same league as the Toyota Chaser sedans that are used sometimes in Japan.

And boy howdy do I agree with the Starion as a choice. Mitsubishi designed those things to have crazy oversteer (thought that was what sports car enthusiasts in the rest of the world wanted). Plus they're pretty cheap these days because they're still an "underground" car.

I thought that the Caddy' was FWD if im not mistaken.

[Suislide]

Originally posted by Moppie
All the RWD Turbo Skylines are used frequently in Japan, Iv seen several vids and DVDs at shows with lots of usualy R32 GTS-ts drifting, but the old R30 is a great drift car, find some old footage or photos of Australian Touring Car racing from the late 80s, a Kiwi by the name of Jim Richards became famous for being one of the few ppl alive who could keep a fully wound up R31 going in a straight line.

RWD Ford Siera Cosworth, Iv already heard of these being used in the UK.

S2000 (its a Given really)

Old Honda S600, not much with the stock engine, but with a Bike engine it would be a blast

Series V RX7, they step the tail out with very little effort, but still allow you to control it.

Lotus/Caterham 7 and any of the other look a like Kit Cars, just watch a Clubman class race and your garunteed to see at least one doing some drifting.

Triumph TR7 V8. This car was made for Drifting, and thats exactly how it likes to be driven, infact they have been proven to be the only car in existance that goes faster around a corner sideways than straight.

Maserati BiTurbo. Trust me

Datsun 120Y and 180B, light weight with easy to work on engines, or chuck them away and fit an SR20det.

RWD Mazda 323, yes the early one's were RWD, and make good homes for early 12a/13a Rotorys, Iv seen more than few going sideways under boost.

The wheel base on the RWD Starlets is a little to short, and they tend to be hard to control, while the RWD Celicas are reknowned for being terriable understeerers, I wouldn't think the amount of work required to sort it out would really be worth it.

And who used Cressida and Performance in the same sentance

it's VERY easy to take the 7MGTE turbo inline-6 from the earlier Supra's and shove it in a Cressida along with the 5-speed. some sport suspension, new wheels, and voila. go-fast family sedan that would be perfect for drifting. and they're fairly cheap over here.

[Layla's Keeper]

Nope, Amish-kid I can tell you with absolute certainty that the CTS and its predecessor the Catera are both FR.

They're based on the Opel Omega platform, which is an FR platform.

In fact, there's going to be a 400hp version of the CTS. Check it out!