New Mclaren Mp4-12C in resin

[lovegt40]

Just got this news from HD. The body doesnt look bad at all.A cool news:

[Tompidom]

That des not look bad at all, But it still is a Hobby Design so that means a very high price and probable a copy of a diecast..................

[lovegt40]

lol, yes as that audi TT.

just searching the original diecast of this...maybe we got it

[drunken monkey]

...and will slowly turn into 1:25.7 scale...

[sportracer02]

Hi,

looks good, but for sure the price will be very high

I don´t know an existing diecast in 1:24 of the car (otherwise I would order it ;-) )

[lovegt40]

suspect an high price as usual
I pray for a future racing version of it,being the subjects i like more

[F1Tommy]

It does look nice. I would bet that we will get a good diecast of this car in 1/24th scale soon. Maybe we can buy the Hobby Design photoetch and wheels without the model

Here are a few photos I took at Mclaren Chicago. The orange one is I think the best looking.

http://www.cardatabase.net/search/ph...472&size=large

Tom Tanner/Scale Designs/Ferrari Expo 2012-Chicago March 17th 2012

[360spider]

Autoart is releasing a very detailed (signature series) diecast of this in 1/18 scale this year.
I'm sure it will cost about the same as this transkit and will be MUCH better.

[F1Tommy]

Originally Posted by 360spider

Autoart is releasing a very detailed (signature series) diecast of this in 1/18 scale this year.
I'm sure it will cost about the same as this transkit and will be MUCH better.

Only problem is its the wrong scale.


Tom Tanner/Ferrari Expo 2012-Chicago March 17th 2012

[360spider]

Originally Posted by F1Tommy

Only problem is its the wrong scale.


Tom Tanner/Ferrari Expo 2012-Chicago March 17th 2012

I have close to 900 1/18 diecasts. Works for me.

[F1Tommy]

Originally Posted by 360spider

I have close to 900 1/18 diecasts. Works for me.

Yep, and 99.99 % of them were pre builts not kits. This is a model kit forum. They are getting very nice I know, and I hope in the end they do not kill off CAR model building all together. The military builders will never buy pre builts like the car guys.

Tom Tanner/Ferrari Expo 2012-Chicago March 17th 2012

[360spider]

Originally Posted by F1Tommy

Yep, and 99.99 % of them were pre builts not kits. This is a model kit forum. They are getting very nice I know, and I hope in the end they do not kill off CAR model building all together. The military builders will never buy pre builts like the car guys.

Tom Tanner/Ferrari Expo 2012-Chicago March 17th 2012

What's your point Tom? Yes, 99% of them are ready built diecast models. And yes, they are getting to the point where I don't have to pay ridiculous amount of money and then spends few months of correcting flaws on the kit to have a model that I can put on the shelf. They bring out the models people want right now - FAST. If car model bulding hobby hopes to survive, then manufacturers should stop trying to shoot themselves in a foot and lower the prices. There is no way a Tamiya or Fujimi kit should cost $60+ when an Autoart diecast that is MUCH nicer than built OOB Tamiya kit costs $80.

Model building hobby was ALWAYS targeted to kids and young adults, because adult builders and collectors are a very small % of plastic kit market. I know of very small number of kids and young adults who could afford $50 per kit + supplies, tools, and time to build on a regular basis. So tell me, do I spend $130 on a HD transkit +$$ on paints, etc that I have to spend few weeks correcting, painting, detailing, etc only to have a curbside model on my shelf, or spend $100 on Autoart diecast that will be as nice (if not nicer - with full details, engine, working suspension, opening panels, etc)? The answers is clear to me. And the sooner model kit makers realize that it is ridiculous to charge that much for a plastic kit, and try to justify it by raising material and labor costs, while diecast manufacturers could design, tool, produce, assemble, distribute and market their FINISHED product at a roughly the same price point, the better off this hobby will be.

[ataschner]

Copy of diecast or not.. it is always a pleasure to put hands on these supercars kits.

The only concern is about the price. If it follows the Audi TT high price, I´m out!

[lovegt40]

And dont forget the sense of frustration you have when you spend so much money in a kit,and destory all at the end with wrong 2k mixture or cracking paint.Hundreds of bucks completely trashed and priceless sense of frustration.
With such diecast u simply pay,open box look it carefully and collect.Nobody can complain of missing parts or ask for hours of explanation for build up. Is part of modern times...no skill required, only heavy wallet.
Years of modelling store service formed me , LOL.

Yes I think this is one of the reason of the BIG crysis of all this modelling sector.

[F1Tommy]

I agree with you that some plastic kits are way over priced(Japanese mainly). They need to rethink their business plan or they will be gone or making diecasts in a few years. The resin kits are made almost 100% for adults, unlike most plastic(we are talkiing about car models as military don't buy prebuilt diecasts). Resin kits are being hurt by the Euro being so high as most were made in Europe. Fisher I think raised his price to equal the Euro kit prices. It does sound like you are giving up on models, but you will not admit it. I think a rethink is in order. Maybe build one high detail model a year and buy the prebuilt diecasts to cover the rest of the cars you want. For me I don't like 1/18th scale so I buy all the 1/24th scale diecasts(they are getting pretty good too but I convert them to models anyway). I also buy 1/43rd and 1/12th handbuilt models and have a large collection of BBR, Looksmart, MR ect... Diecast companies make most of the cars so if you can't tell the difference you should not waste your time and money with the BBR's and handmade models and buy diecasts.

Hobby Design is out of their mind with pricing. No I do not plan on buying this kit unless it is under $120.00. I will wait for the 1/24th scale diecast to convert into a model.

Tom Tanner/Scale Designs/Ferrari Expo 2012-Chicago March 17th 2012