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Old 01-03-2012, 10:50 AM
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2005 GP GTP running very rich

I have started to experience this issue the car burns gas like crazy. I get less then 100 miles on the tank. No check engine lite is on. I have replaced plugs and wires about a year ago. Car runs fine. The DIC shows 10 miles per gallon. I have a v8 car that is better on gas now. Any suggestions what can cause such a poor gas mileage.
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Old 01-03-2012, 10:54 AM
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Re: 2005 GP GTP running very rich

Change the upstream O2 sensor. It controls the amount of fuel that the computer sends to the engine and a significant decrease in fuel mileage is one of the signs that the sensor is going bad.
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Old 01-03-2012, 11:35 AM
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Re: 2005 GP GTP running very rich

I changed the one before the converter about 7 months ago is this the one you are talking about?
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Old 01-03-2012, 12:20 PM
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Re: 2005 GP GTP running very rich

Yes, but it is possible that it is bad even though it was replaced. Next, are you sure that
you don't have a fuel leak or is there a possibility that someone is stealing your gas?

Did you get bad mileage before you changed the sensor?
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Old 01-03-2012, 01:14 PM
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Re: 2005 GP GTP running very rich

Also check your air filter(dirty) or check vac line to f/p regulator for fuel....check for codes, just to see if you can communicate with the PCM....
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Old 01-03-2012, 05:49 PM
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Re: 2005 GP GTP running very rich

did you gap the plugs properly? Is the car sluggish?
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2004 GRAND PRIX GTP COMP G. VIN 4 :
OVERKILL CUSTOM PCM, WIZAIR CAI, ZZP TRAILING ARMS, W BODY STORE LATERAL ARMS, ALL POLY/SOLID MOUNTS, STB F&R, ZZP RACE TRANS, ALT REWIRE & VOLTAGE BSTR, 180 STAT, NGK TR6, MPS with 3.4 PULLEY, PACESETTER HEADERS, 1.8 ROLLER ROCKERS, FP REWIRE,ZZP COILS/WIRES, TB SPACER, D&S ROTORS, INTERCEPTOR SCAN GAUGE, CUSTOM STAINLESS 2.5 INCH CAT BACK EXHAUST.
2004 Honda Odyssey EX-L
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Old 01-03-2012, 07:31 PM
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Re: 2005 GP GTP running very rich

i did not gap teh plugs i thought they come pre gapped the car runs fine no sluggishness
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Old 01-03-2012, 07:35 PM
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Re: 2005 GP GTP running very rich

definately remove the plugs and check the gaps on all of them. Some of them come pre-gapped but I never trust them. always check the gap. what kind of plugs did you use? change the pcv valve. also, clean the throttle body and use seafoam in the gas tank as well as in the intake.
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2004 GRAND PRIX GTP COMP G. VIN 4 :
OVERKILL CUSTOM PCM, WIZAIR CAI, ZZP TRAILING ARMS, W BODY STORE LATERAL ARMS, ALL POLY/SOLID MOUNTS, STB F&R, ZZP RACE TRANS, ALT REWIRE & VOLTAGE BSTR, 180 STAT, NGK TR6, MPS with 3.4 PULLEY, PACESETTER HEADERS, 1.8 ROLLER ROCKERS, FP REWIRE,ZZP COILS/WIRES, TB SPACER, D&S ROTORS, INTERCEPTOR SCAN GAUGE, CUSTOM STAINLESS 2.5 INCH CAT BACK EXHAUST.
2004 Honda Odyssey EX-L

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Old 01-03-2012, 07:50 PM
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Re: 2005 GP GTP running very rich

for comparision sake I get 19.7 mpg in my Comp G and I definately use the gas pedal
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2004 GRAND PRIX GTP COMP G. VIN 4 :
OVERKILL CUSTOM PCM, WIZAIR CAI, ZZP TRAILING ARMS, W BODY STORE LATERAL ARMS, ALL POLY/SOLID MOUNTS, STB F&R, ZZP RACE TRANS, ALT REWIRE & VOLTAGE BSTR, 180 STAT, NGK TR6, MPS with 3.4 PULLEY, PACESETTER HEADERS, 1.8 ROLLER ROCKERS, FP REWIRE,ZZP COILS/WIRES, TB SPACER, D&S ROTORS, INTERCEPTOR SCAN GAUGE, CUSTOM STAINLESS 2.5 INCH CAT BACK EXHAUST.
2004 Honda Odyssey EX-L
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Old 01-03-2012, 08:07 PM
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Re: 2005 GP GTP running very rich

i am definetely not getting anywhere close to that. I will check this weekend. The car runs great lots of power so i dont know.
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Old 01-16-2012, 03:37 PM
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Re: 2005 GP GTP running very rich

Update had the guy scan the car with gm tech II tool he says no codes come up.
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Old 01-16-2012, 06:00 PM
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Re: 2005 GP GTP running very rich

did you check the plug gaps yet???? also take off your maf and get the maf specific cleaner (green label) and clean the wire/sensors off very well, do not touch the wires!!!!!!!!! I have seen this have a significant improvement.
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2004 GRAND PRIX GTP COMP G. VIN 4 :
OVERKILL CUSTOM PCM, WIZAIR CAI, ZZP TRAILING ARMS, W BODY STORE LATERAL ARMS, ALL POLY/SOLID MOUNTS, STB F&R, ZZP RACE TRANS, ALT REWIRE & VOLTAGE BSTR, 180 STAT, NGK TR6, MPS with 3.4 PULLEY, PACESETTER HEADERS, 1.8 ROLLER ROCKERS, FP REWIRE,ZZP COILS/WIRES, TB SPACER, D&S ROTORS, INTERCEPTOR SCAN GAUGE, CUSTOM STAINLESS 2.5 INCH CAT BACK EXHAUST.
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Old 01-16-2012, 07:17 PM
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Re: 2005 GP GTP running very rich

i have not done this yet its too cold to work on cars in NY now
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Re: 2005 GP GTP running very rich

Check your catalytic converter. It's a common problem on these cars
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Old 01-20-2012, 01:15 PM
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Re: 2005 GP GTP running very rich

The car has brand new converter from GM and no engine light is on
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