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2000 GTP bogs on hard accelleration
Noticed it tonight, floor it at about 55mph and it bogs down for a second then goes, and bogs, it will buck like that for a few seconds then accellerate. Drives just fine outherwise. I hope its not a tcc issue. Tomorrow I'll try and check for stored or pending DTC's, and check out the TPS for a good sweep, as well as watch the MAF frequency.
Anything else to check? New delco pump in december, new plugs delco last month. The wires I replaced when I got it at 70k or so. So they have about 100k on them. So they may be time, although when I put plugs in it, they seemed ok. Fuel filter replaced when I put the pump in. It boosts just fine, and reaches full boost, and can reach full boost by accellerating from a stand still. Just does the bog thing from a steady 55-60mph floor. Forgot to add its a 2000 with approx 170,000mi. Problem just cropped up as far as I can see although I dont floor it too often. Just when I do I need power there.
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Re: 2000 GTP bogs on hard accelleration
it does sound like a TCC unlock-delay issue, let us know what you find when you scan it.
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Re: 2000 GTP bogs on hard accelleration
can you tell if its misfiring? if so, i could (and hopefully is) something as simple as your wires..
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Re: 2000 GTP bogs on hard accelleration
I drove to work today and accellerated to 55 and held it there crusing, rpm's were about 1700 in OD. I stepped on the brake about 5 times briefly with my left foot and each time the TCC disenguaged like it should, RPM's went up. So as far as I can tell the TCC should be working fine.
Feels like a large missfire or a fuel deliver problem to me. I might ohm check the coils as one slightly bad coil could cause a large miss under load but have enough spark voltage to jump the gap at light accelleration. I wonder if its KR....
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-2000 Grand Prix GTP 170,000mi (daily driver) -2000 Olds Alero 100,000mi (soon to be DD with gas at $3.45/gal) -1997 Chev K1500 4x4 115,000mi (Natalie's truck [nans_grandprix]) AF "2.0" Community Guidelines Conservative Victory 2012!!! "I'll Keep my Guns, Freedom, and Money. You can Keep the Change!" ----->>>>> Did You Know? <<<<<----- |
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Re: 2000 GTP bogs on hard accelleration
Doubt it is knock retard, I cant remember the mods you have though. check catalytic converter flow. sounds like a miss, maybe injectors. I use the old fashion way to check the coils. here is a link on you tube for the way i test them. they should all have about the same arc.
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2004 GRAND PRIX GTP COMP G. VIN 4 : OVERKILL CUSTOM PCM, WIZAIR CAI, ZZP TRAILING ARMS, W BODY STORE LATERAL ARMS, ALL POLY/SOLID MOUNTS, STB F&R, ZZP RACE TRANS, ALT REWIRE & VOLTAGE BSTR, 180 STAT, NGK TR6, MPS with 3.4 PULLEY, PACESETTER HEADERS, 1.8 ROLLER ROCKERS, FP REWIRE,ZZP COILS/WIRES, TB SPACER, D&S ROTORS, INTERCEPTOR SCAN GAUGE, CUSTOM STAINLESS 2.5 INCH CAT BACK EXHAUST. 2004 Honda Odyssey EX-L
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Re: 2000 GTP bogs on hard accelleration
Wish I could be of more help but I guess this time I can't LOL.
I was thinking since you just noticed it and didn't seem to happen before AND you recently replaced it, could it be by chance the fuel pump resistor?, just an idea... Oscar.
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Re: 2000 GTP bogs on hard accelleration
Rick, missing the link to youtube?. HAHA
Oscar, valid thought but the resistor is used for cruising only. Under hard hard accelleration, the PCM commands the fuel pump speed realy to bypass the resistor altoegher. BTW, the wiring diagrams were perfect. Everything I needed, thank you!!!!!!
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-2000 Grand Prix GTP 170,000mi (daily driver) -2000 Olds Alero 100,000mi (soon to be DD with gas at $3.45/gal) -1997 Chev K1500 4x4 115,000mi (Natalie's truck [nans_grandprix]) AF "2.0" Community Guidelines Conservative Victory 2012!!! "I'll Keep my Guns, Freedom, and Money. You can Keep the Change!" ----->>>>> Did You Know? <<<<<----- |
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Re: 2000 GTP bogs on hard accelleration
here it is.... :O http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNx9YDodgE0
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2004 GRAND PRIX GTP COMP G. VIN 4 : OVERKILL CUSTOM PCM, WIZAIR CAI, ZZP TRAILING ARMS, W BODY STORE LATERAL ARMS, ALL POLY/SOLID MOUNTS, STB F&R, ZZP RACE TRANS, ALT REWIRE & VOLTAGE BSTR, 180 STAT, NGK TR6, MPS with 3.4 PULLEY, PACESETTER HEADERS, 1.8 ROLLER ROCKERS, FP REWIRE,ZZP COILS/WIRES, TB SPACER, D&S ROTORS, INTERCEPTOR SCAN GAUGE, CUSTOM STAINLESS 2.5 INCH CAT BACK EXHAUST. 2004 Honda Odyssey EX-L
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Re: 2000 GTP bogs on hard accelleration
Quote:
I'm glad the diagrams worked, whenever you need anything else you know what to do! Oscar.
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Re: 2000 GTP bogs on hard accelleration
New plug wires did the trick. The old ones had 100k on them and 4 changes of plugs, so the boots were probably carbon tracking on hard accelleration. The old gir accellerates as she should now. Not bad for a 10+ yr old car with 170k on it.
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-2000 Grand Prix GTP 170,000mi (daily driver) -2000 Olds Alero 100,000mi (soon to be DD with gas at $3.45/gal) -1997 Chev K1500 4x4 115,000mi (Natalie's truck [nans_grandprix]) AF "2.0" Community Guidelines Conservative Victory 2012!!! "I'll Keep my Guns, Freedom, and Money. You can Keep the Change!" ----->>>>> Did You Know? <<<<<----- |
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Re: 2000 GTP bogs on hard accelleration
Glad you got it figured out Tim. I had the same issue only not as severe. A little chunk of the wire sleeve got ripped off somehow exposing the wire. New wires fixed it.
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