-
Grand Future Air Dried Fresh Beef Dog Food
Air Dried Dog Food | Fresh Beef

Carnivore Diet for Dogs

Go Back   Automotive Forums Car Chat > Automotive Art > Car Modeling
Register FAQ Community
Car Modeling Share your passion for car modeling here! Includes sub-forum for "in progress" and "completed" vehicles.
Reply Show Printable Version Show Printable Version | Subscription Subscribe to this Thread
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 10-11-2010, 03:19 PM
rx7king's Avatar
rx7king rx7king is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,493
Thanks: 7
Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts
Send a message via AIM to rx7king
Airbrushing (possibly a stupid ??)

I have a airbrush however i seldom use it because i dont have the process down very well. I am curious, when you mix your paint and thinner do you mix only what you are intending on using right at that time? Or do you mix a fair amount of it for later use? I guess I am also wondering if thinned paint has a long shelf life if you do mix a jar of it? I think this is an issue that has held me back from airbrushing because I really dont want to waste a bunch of paint or mix small amounts of paint at a time. Any insight on this would be appreciated and sorry for the dumb question but i couldnt find any help from the search tool.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 10-11-2010, 04:41 PM
jano11 jano11 is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,399
Thanks: 57
Thanked 27 Times in 26 Posts
Re: Airbrushing (possibly a stupid ??)

Mix only what you use.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10-11-2010, 04:46 PM
rx7king's Avatar
rx7king rx7king is offline
AF Enthusiast
Thread starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,493
Thanks: 7
Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts
Send a message via AIM to rx7king
Re: Airbrushing (possibly a stupid ??)

So basically the only efficient way to do it is to get a lot of the parts ready for paint and do a lot at once if you can?
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10-11-2010, 05:47 PM
ales's Avatar
ales ales is offline
Forza Schumacher
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 6,695
Thanks: 9
Thanked 19 Times in 19 Posts
Re: Airbrushing (possibly a stupid ??)

Quote:
Originally Posted by rx7king View Post
So basically the only efficient way to do it is to get a lot of the parts ready for paint and do a lot at once if you can?
Really depends on whether you can still enjoy the hobby if it starts to resemble an assembly line I can

What I do, like Jano11 suggests, is mix exactly what I need for the particular airbrushing session. The exception here is semigloss black that I actually a lot of but that's only because it's probably the most widely-used colour that can be found on virtually any model, so it does not have the time to go bad. Most of the time.
__________________

Would love to resume my duties as AF's own official thread bastardizer!!!
1:29:53.435 || 207.316 || 310.596
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10-11-2010, 05:56 PM
stevenoble's Avatar
stevenoble stevenoble is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 3,199
Thanks: 8
Thanked 111 Times in 107 Posts
Re: Airbrushing (possibly a stupid ??)

Just use a gravity feed airbrush with a small colour cup. You can mix minute quantities of paint and there is zero wastage at all. If you don't like mixing different paints up, then maybe airbrushing isn't for you. During the course of building a model, I will sometimes mix ten or more different colours in very small quantities. Once you get used to mixing, spraying, quick flushing the airbrush and mixing the next colour, it's no different than using a paintbrush and washing it out between colours.....
__________________
Steve Noble
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 10-12-2010, 03:41 AM
CifeNet's Avatar
CifeNet CifeNet is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 528
Thanks: 2
Thanked 17 Times in 16 Posts
Re: Airbrushing (possibly a stupid ??)

I mix and use at the time of airbrushing and this isn't a big deal.

I find that it is not an exact science, you have to go with flow and define your own method that works for you.

However, for custom colors, I did save them up to a couple of months. I had no issues using pre-mixed paint; I slightly added thinner to a level where it won't change the color shade and it went on okay...
__________________
-- CifeNet
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 10-12-2010, 06:43 AM
klutz_100's Avatar
klutz_100 klutz_100 is offline
AF Fanatic
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 5,889
Thanks: 7
Thanked 16 Times in 15 Posts
Send a message via Skype™ to klutz_100
Re: Airbrushing (possibly a stupid ??)

Quote:
Originally Posted by stevenoble View Post
Just use a gravity feed airbrush
That's the critical factor IMHO.

With a gravity cup, mixing and cleaning is not much different from brush painting really - once you get the hang of it.

Combine that with Vallejo acrylics in their dropper/dispenser bottles and wasted paint really IS comparable with brush painting Also, I always put any unused thinned paint back into the jar - it does no harm at all (quite the opposite in fact)

I have never used a bottom-jar airbrush but I can imagine that they are much more of a pain to use for airbrushing small doses of color.
__________________
Guideline for happy modeling: Practice on scrap. Always try something new. Less is more.

"I have a plan so cunning, you could put a tail on it and call it a weasel" - Edmund Blackadder
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 10-12-2010, 07:06 AM
stevenoble's Avatar
stevenoble stevenoble is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 3,199
Thanks: 8
Thanked 111 Times in 107 Posts
Re: Airbrushing (possibly a stupid ??)

Quote:
Originally Posted by klutz_100 View Post
I have never used a bottom-jar airbrush but I can imagine that they are much more of a pain to use for airbrushing small doses of color.
Exactly right. I used to use one and it's a real pain to keep filling the jar and cleaning it out after each colour....
__________________
Steve Noble
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 10-12-2010, 10:29 AM
rx7king's Avatar
rx7king rx7king is offline
AF Enthusiast
Thread starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,493
Thanks: 7
Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts
Send a message via AIM to rx7king
Re: Airbrushing (possibly a stupid ??)

Awesome, thanks for the input guys much appreciated
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 10-12-2010, 11:14 AM
360spider's Avatar
360spider 360spider is offline
AF Moderator
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 3,262
Thanks: 38
Thanked 314 Times in 241 Posts
Re: Airbrushing (possibly a stupid ??)

Thinned paint goes bad in about 2-4 weeks, depending on paint. Some sooner some later.
__________________
The client is not always right. - Enzo Ferrari
ItalianHorses.net
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 10-12-2010, 12:11 PM
klutz_100's Avatar
klutz_100 klutz_100 is offline
AF Fanatic
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 5,889
Thanks: 7
Thanked 16 Times in 15 Posts
Send a message via Skype™ to klutz_100
Re: Airbrushing (possibly a stupid ??)

Quote:
Originally Posted by 360spider View Post
Thinned paint goes bad in about 2-4 weeks, depending on paint. Some sooner some later.
Mine doesn't

I think it depends on what you thin it with. A compatible thinner should not react with the paint. I've got jars of Tamiya paint that has been diluted with Tamiya thinners over 2 years ago and was still good when I used it yesterday on my Cayman
__________________
Guideline for happy modeling: Practice on scrap. Always try something new. Less is more.

"I have a plan so cunning, you could put a tail on it and call it a weasel" - Edmund Blackadder
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 10-12-2010, 02:40 PM
ales's Avatar
ales ales is offline
Forza Schumacher
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 6,695
Thanks: 9
Thanked 19 Times in 19 Posts
Re: Airbrushing (possibly a stupid ??)

But if you thin them with lacquer thinner (like so many of us do) then yes, they to turn into sludge.
__________________

Would love to resume my duties as AF's own official thread bastardizer!!!
1:29:53.435 || 207.316 || 310.596
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 10-12-2010, 03:21 PM
klutz_100's Avatar
klutz_100 klutz_100 is offline
AF Fanatic
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 5,889
Thanks: 7
Thanked 16 Times in 15 Posts
Send a message via Skype™ to klutz_100
Re: Airbrushing (possibly a stupid ??)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ales View Post
But if you thin them with lacquer thinner (like so many of us do) then yes, they to turn into sludge.
Like I said, compatible

Putting square pegs into round holes has to have some drawbacks somewhere I suppose.

Not that I think longevity of thinned, leftover paint is such a huge benefit worth more than using your preferred thinner. My motto is "if it works for you, go for it!"
__________________
Guideline for happy modeling: Practice on scrap. Always try something new. Less is more.

"I have a plan so cunning, you could put a tail on it and call it a weasel" - Edmund Blackadder
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 10-12-2010, 03:27 PM
drunken monkey's Avatar
drunken monkey drunken monkey is offline
Razor Sharp Twit
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 5,865
Thanks: 0
Thanked 26 Times in 22 Posts
Re: Airbrushing (possibly a stupid ??)

As habit, whenever i buy a new jar of Tamiya (X/XF) acrylic, I add a drop or two of their X-20A thinner. I've got a couple of these of colours that I don't use that often that are more than 2 years old with no noticable ill effect from adding their thinner.

I also have a jar of semi-gloss black (X-18) that I've over saturated with X-20A thinner that is perfectly fine.
__________________
AF's Guidelines

Read them.

__________________


Currently in the process of re-hosting my photos.
If any go missing, drop me a PM.
Reply With Quote
 
Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Is it possible to airbrush Tamiya X & XF paints? adz13091982 Car Modeling 5 02-02-2009 12:56 PM
Possible stupid question... maney8295 Grand Prix 1 04-09-2008 08:01 AM
Possible Stupid Question roach2k2 Off-Topic 19 07-16-2004 10:51 PM
possible stupid question BlackDeath_Eclipse Off-Topic 1 04-08-2004 10:22 PM
Is it possible to airbrush primer on? crab Car Modeling 13 06-26-2002 07:48 PM

Reply

POST REPLY TO THIS THREAD

Go Back   Automotive Forums Car Chat > Automotive Art > Car Modeling


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:00 PM.

Community Participation Guidelines | How to use your User Control Panel

Powered by: vBulletin | Copyright Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
 
 
no new posts