Evolution

[enzo@af]

Okay, I'm just bringing the argument over from "If there's a heaven", since it seemed to get into a debate about evolution...not heaven. So, what do you think about evolution?

[Porsche]

It's great! Without it, we wouldn't be here. It has also caused major problems like the development of Nuclear Warfare. But we're still here so it hasn't been all that bad. Ferraris also came out of evolution so I'm all for it.

[JD@af]

My opinion has already been amply stated in "If there's a heaven..."

[texan]

And if you're going to get on this subject, let's draw an important distinction to the debate right now. There are two parts to evolution, the fact and the theory.

There is no disupting the FACT of evolution, that things change over time. Anyone who actually believes things have been the way they are now since the beginning of time should be a member of the Flat Earth Society.

The THEORY of evolution is what we should be commenting on, and in that I submit only one argument. In the whole of scientific discovery, no one theory has challenged religious belief so much as Darwin's theory. Yet in well over 150 years of scientific learning, no one person has been able to disprove this theory. Of course if Darwin had lived in the 15th century we wouldn't even be debating this, since he would have been pronounced heretical and burned at the stake. But beyond all that, I just want to know what the hell creationists think fossils are .

[Bean Bandit]

I hope evolution will make a leap in near future else I don't know how long there'll be a human race. Long enough for me anyway but it would be nice if evolution would streak again and change the way people are thinking:alien:

[JD@af]

Thank you Tex.

[enzo@af]

Here's an explanation of what I've heard about the extinction of dinosaurs....
Well, Noah only took two of each animal onto his ark, so that explains the fossils (all the others died)(doesn't explain carbon dating and about a hundred other things). However, once the flood ended, the ground was so soft that all of the dinosaurs couldn't walk (they just sank). Now, considering the majority of pre-historic creatures were small, I don't see why they died as well, but Elephants did not.

Again, I agree with the fact of evolution, and I disbelieve the bible's interpretation of creation....but it did have to all start somewhere.

[Reaper]

I believe we all are bred to think in a certain way. I believe that the "ones that rule" twist the way we think. They do this via TV, radio, and newspapers. TV is the worst of all. It has twisted our thinking so much we don't know any better...

IMHO, the Bible is a work of fiction, God and Jesus are figments of our imagination, used to explain something that is unknown to us, like creation, and death. It seems there has to be reason behind just about everything. If we don't understand it then it doesn't exist. We think we know everything, we think we are always right. Well we aren't. We are what we are...

For all we know Aliens created us and we are their experiment. Like I said, TV has twisted our way of thinking so much we don't know what to think other than what "they" tell us...

Call me crazy...

[Bean Bandit]

Reaper

You seem to be crazy as posted that all in one post in each topic:bandit: j/k

[Reaper]

Originally posted by Bean Bandit
Reaper

You seem to be crazy as posted that all in one post in each topic:bandit: j/k

hehehe, yea I posted it here first, then moved on to the "Is there a Heaven" post. Felt it fit there too...

As for being crazy, yea you could say that

Later bud...
:bandit:

[LakeMountLude]

i say instead of downing evolution or religion, how about putting them together... i say yes there is evolution but i also say yes to adam and eve cause i believe the bible there is evidence supporting both so what do scientists do when this happens? learn to put them with each other!!

[Lizard King]

The bible isn't proof of anything.

We do have proof that man has evolved. Look at the skeletons of early man.

If the Adam and Eve story was true, then we are all derived from inbreeding.

[enzo@af]

Yes, we would all be derived from inbreeding, but inbreeding doesn't always have negative consequences. Basically inbreeding increases homozygosity of alleles (in polyploid creatures). So, anywhere A&E both had a single "bad" recessive allele, it is somewhat likely that their offspring would get it as a homozygous recessive.

Personally, I have no problem matching religion to science. I do it mostly because I just feel there has to be some greater power. Not because there is any conclusive evidence of it (that's why it's called "faith"...if there was good evidence, it would be the only choice), but because life is just simply too wondrous to be an accident. However, I simply cannot reconcile the bible with science.

[MBTN]

Hey LakeMountLude, did Adam and Eve have belly buttons?

Yeah, that's what I though. The bible doesn't answer that because it's wrong, ignoramous.

[Heep]

Personally, I could care less what everybody believes, you should believe what you feel like believing and don't diss people that believe something else. There is evidence supporting both creation and evolution, and both have several unexplainable parts to them.

I think the main reason I believe creation is as follows: I have trouble getting my head around believing that we appeared by chance...just look at the amazing complexity of the eye, or brain, or even foot, and how perfectly they all work together.

Anyway, think whatever you want, and I will too.