Gsr Vs Z24

[acuraattack92]

my 92 integra could take him at 140hp stock. I ran a 15.7 with good tuning and an open exhaust. Your gsr should be in the mid to low 15's too except if your racing conditions are hot as hell and the air is thin.

[Kilboy57]

This is so funny my friend has a hooked up Z24...it has some speed I'll give him that....but he says if I buy myself a GSR he will blow me away.... We'll see about that....Prove me right defend the Teg name

[acuraattack92]

where's carmel NY

[hmongstang]

a friend of my has an z24 and he smoked a viper off the line til 250mph
go race to find out! that's the fun part

[Kilboy57]

LOL....Carmel is a small town about an hour North of the City in Putnam County...I figured NO one has heard of it unless they live near it

[AzShadow]

Ok, point of fact

1. z24 looks like crap GSR looks like a killer (came from a poll) and honestly if you or anyone chose looks..gsr would come on top

2. z24 stock vs GSR stock, z24 could NEVER win.. you all know it. dont even count mods cuz they're just not normal cars anymore. no crap about the racer behind the wheels either. the GSR is still and always will be a faster car.

3. z24 and gsr weigh about the same. 4cyls, honda pumping 170 horses out of 1.8 4cyl, come on...that's some efficiency right there.

4. there's a REASON why integras are featured so much on magazines.. why? because it's a better car. z24? say what? good for the money but never a better car. go home.

5. you KNOW you see a lot more GSR's than u see z24's. do i even have to explain why? i dont hate on z24's.. jsut stating the obvious..thank u thank u

[kidrocket]

the average modded Z24 has spinning lights on the valve stems, stickers, and 13 in polished aluminum american racing rims (most likely 3 spokes)

im not saying hondas never look like this, but theyre fewer and farther between. it seems like every time i see a modded Z24, it looks like shit, and i have seen some nice ones, they were just in magazines, or they looked completely stock and ran like 14.5

[mdb25]

I know that this is a Honda forum, but I feel the need to chime in on this discussion. Why are we comparing a top of the line integra to a Z24? The Z24 is an economy gm car. Remind yourself of the price difference of the two. You are comparing two completely different price tiers. I would certainly hope that you get more out of a car that you pay 6-8 grand more for. Unfortunately, if were talking stock, I don't see the differences between the acura and the z24 as being worth that much money, but hey, everyone has their preferences. Now, just to shut all of you up, I want you to go out and race something that is in your price bracket, like a grand prix. Granted the GSR is now defunct, but now they have the RSX which is basically it's eqivalent. Lets see... a loaded up RSX type S costs around 25-26K. The grand prix GT costs about the same. Go race one (and pray it's not a GTP) and then talk. I don't give a rats ass what you have for mods. Vehicle comparisons made by professionals like Car and Driver and Motor Trend are made based on STOCK VEHICLES. No stock RSX is going to take a grand prix (especially the GTP). Due to the extroardinary weight difference, you may be faster off the line until you get to say oh about... 10mph and then you will feel the grand prix's authority coming up behind you and roar right past at about 4 grand, while you queers are topping out at like 8500. That's how american vehicles do it. HAVE SOME MORE RESPECT FOR YOUR COUNTRY!! After your done wiping the tears from your eyes, go out and buy any civic and race a Z24. Now there's an equal price match. Granted this will be close, but in the end I will put my money on the Z. Look at the numbers. They don't lie.

[100proof]

ive raced like 2 or 3 and my car is stock and thier car had exhaust but the races were close but i won///// i think it will depend on how of a good driver you are i say its 50/50 any thing can happen

[mdb25]

Well dude, I dont know what type of grand prix you were racing, but the lowest grand prix available has a 3100SFI that pumps out 170 hp. Maybe you were racing one of those. The GT and the GTP come with a 3800 SFI that pumps out 205 and 265 hp respectively. There is no way on god's green earth that you will take one if you are running stock. My brother has a 2001 GTP and that only has 245hp as opposed to the new one and he has never had any problem stomping Integra's and RSX's that are stock. Even the tricked out ones with the intake and exhaust aren't enough to take it. I'm not talking about losing by a couple of inches either. It's more like carlengths. I live in Syracuse NY and there is kind of a street racing area nearby where people gather on the weekends. Every car imaginable usually shows up and I've watched him race time and time again. It's the same scenario every time. The teg or the rsx gets the jump and has the lead for a few seconds but thats about it. Well, I'm not going to argue forever with the guys in this forum. It just disappoints me that everyone's pride here is too big to show some friggin respect for american cars. Granted, my hat's off to GSR's and RSX-S' because they will take a Z24, but it truly is an unjust comparison. After all, you get what you pay for and for a car that costs nearly 50% more, that acura had damn well better be moving faster.

[whtteg]

Ok mdb25 I think you are about as dumb as they come! The reason the acura casts more is b/c it is an import and it is made alot better! When you buy a z24 and drive it off the lot it will go down in value drastically(as all american cars do) but the acura will have alot more resell value off the lot! I bet that my 95 integra is valued more than your 2002 cavy. And another thing a z24 as a economy car, I'll give you that but what are you saying about the acura, is 30-35 mpg not considered economy? The acura also has a smaller engine too I think the z24 has what a 2.5L or something when the integra has a 1.8! And as far as the grandprix thing they are not that fast unless they are the gtp models and even then if you want to compare apples to apples then we are going to whip out the S2000 and belive me it will walk the GTP baddly. And the only reason the GTP has any speed at all is b/c it has a Supercharger If you put a vortec on a gsr it will spank that GTP nasty bad! Your argument is like saying race a stock SVT supercharged cobra against a stock Z28 yes the z28 is going to loose but if the playing field was leveled then the Z28 would be close if not faster.

[knorwj]

first of all WOW this is a great post ( even if there are a few dilusional z24 owners) i own a 93 gs-r (stock)and have raced some cavaliers they were those new ugly yellow ones with the factory equipped rims and ground effects ( you all know the ones!) I would first like to mention that my car is 10 years old has 150,000 miles on it and i only paid 2400 for it and it can crush a cavalier, now i don't know if the ones i raced were z24 or not but even so ANY cavalier will never compare to a integra or any other honda or acura , and by the way this is not blind honda owner pride, I have also owned ( in order) a 1988 dodge 600, a 1989 ford bronco2, a 1989 dodge daytona, and a 1996 dodge neon, and have driven other crappy cars of the like, even a 97 cavalier. I used to think exactly the same as other that hondas sucked and were slow till i bought my gs-r and now i am a faithful honda follower. the integra is just much better put together better engineered and will last you alot longer whether you drive it hard or not. Can some of you honestly tell me that if a cavalier could ever be faster than a integra given the same amount of money to spend on mods? not likely. so anyway back to my point i raced that cavalier on flat ground, on hils, on straight aways and bends and came out on top every time, and i don't think any integra owner that can drive should have any problem beating a cavalier with similar mods.

[mdb25]

Well, thanks for insulting my car. Yes, I drive one of those "crappy new yellow ones." Anyway whtteg, don't ever call me dumb. I have done more engine swaps and more auto body work than most people my age and I'm 23. Please keep the insults to a minimum and don't ever question my integrity. You seem to have overlooked everything that I had written. We are talking STOCK comparisons and like I said, no GSR or RSX is going to take a Grand Prix. As for the Honda S, well of course it's faster. What does it cost again? Oh yeah, it's like 5 grand more than a GTP. Enough said. I am not denying that an RSX or a GSR will beat a cavalier. I already admitted to that, but for some reason, you idiots keep on reminding me. Yes, acuras hold their value quite well, but it's like I said, YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. Of course the acura is better built and faster. That's why it costs so much more you friggin idiot. God, use some common sense. As for the grand prix, even the GT which isn't supercharged, will spank GSR/RSX. Please, go to the grand prix forum and tell them what you told me. The cavalier is by no means a sports car, but the GSR/RSX certainly are. I just find it funny how you homos have to compare your shit with cars that are like half the price of yours. Please, go compare yourselves with a Z28 or a GTP, which costs the same. Now please bring me any stock base integ or civic and compare to my Z's. Trust me, you will not take a Z24, at least not the ones with the 2.4 Twin Cam or the 2.2 Ecotec.

[loesch8102]

I think both of you have your fare share of thoughful arguments, although, here's how I see it. The only fare comparison for a GTP in Honda's line-up would be the new Honda Accord V6. And the only good matchup for a Z24 would be a Honda Civic Si. And the only fare comparison for the Honda S2000 would be a V8 Camaro, Firebird, or Mustang which still isn't the best to compare. It's hard to compare American cars with Imports because they both have very different marketing strategies which may be why there is so much conflict between Chevy and Honda owners.

But just for the record, here are some stats I found...

2000 Chevrolet Cavalier Z24 --- 0-60: 7.9sec
2000 Chevrolet Cavalier LS --- 0-60: 9.7sec

2000 Honda Civic Si --- 0-60: 7.2sec
2000 Honda Civic EX --- 0-60: 8.5sec

(and...)

1999 Pontiac Grand Prix GT --- 0-60: 7.8sec
2003 Acura RSX Type S --- 0-60: 6.7sec
2000 Acura Integra GSR --- 0-60: 7.2sec

(but...)

2003 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP --- 0-60: 6.7sec
2003 Honda Accord V6 --- 0-60: 6.7sec (hmmm)

2003 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP --- MSRP: $27,045
2003 Honda Accord V6 --- MSRP: $26,360 - $28,360

[knorwj]

hey mdb25 sorry bought dissin you ride, i guess it comes down to individual taste. by the way what town in central new york are you in?

anyway back to the question at hand, I went through some car and driver issues and found stats similar to the ones posted above , so i guess an integra (especially one with vtec) will stomp a z24