They want the world to believe THEY are peaceful...

[thegladhatter]

They danged sure weren't baptists or catholics now were they? Actually I heard it discussed on tv that they were muslims. Whether that was their motivation or not...who knows. BUT their moral compass sure didn't prevent it.

[CL8]

Originally Posted by BNaylor

That is true, however, it is implied since just about all Somali citizens are Sunni Muslim. We had many Somali workers when I was stationed in Saudi Arabia and they were all Muslim and went to the 5 prayers daily.

I don't believe the Somali pirates are doing their dirty deeds based on the Islamic religion or operating as Islamic extremists but of course you never know for sure. Obviously they are doing it for monetary gain like any other pirate(s).

Of course I can't think of any non -Muslim nation having a problem with this kind of piracy.
Are there any documented Christians found guilty of this kind of piracy?
I can't think of any.
I have heard it's particularly bad near Somalia because there is no government to enforce law and order, so these pirates can get away with it there.

[drunken monkey]

Originally Posted by CL8

Of course I can't think of any non -Muslim nation having a problem with this kind of piracy.
Are there any documented Christians found guilty of this kind of piracy?
I can't think of any.

For point of reference; the police profile for a sexual offender is a 40 something male, educated and goes to church regularly.

The typical 40 something male who is educated and goes to church regularly is not a sexual offender.

[thegladhatter]

Give me a sexual offender over these bastards any day! A drunk monkey can kick a pervert's ass! These maggots kill too many in clusters!
Geesh......no wonder the UK is becoming a muslim state!

[CL8]

Originally Posted by drunken monkey

For point of reference; the police profile for a sexual offender is a 40 something male, educated and goes to church regularly.

The typical 40 something male who is educated and goes to church regularly is not a sexual offender.

As gladhatter said, piracy/terrorism is a far cry from a sex offender.

And not every church goer is a Christian at heart!

[BNaylor]

Comparing apples to oranges.

Sex offender is a vague term and a lot of times the crime is not really that bad depending on what perspective you have. Plus there are females that are sex offenders like school teachers. If a female school teacher had sex with one of my sons before age 17 or as a minor I would give her a hug and give him an attaboy.

[VR43000GT]

Originally Posted by BNaylor

Comparing apples to oranges.

Sex offender is a vague term and a lot of times the crime is not really that bad depending on what perspective you have. Plus there are females that are sex offenders like school teachers. If a female school teacher had sex with one of my sons before age 17 or as a minor I would give her a hug and give him an attaboy.

I have been trying to stay out of this thread but I couldn't help but laugh about that.

It is true that we have a double-standard as far as how sex offenders are looked at between males and females. You hear of a female teacher having sex with a younger male student all the time now. Then, you see Jay Leno joking about it on the Tonight Show. Can you imagine if there was a bunch of male teachers out there having sex with 12 and 13 year old girl students?! That man would have his limbs chopped off and tossed into the lion's den before having his court appearance.

[mellowboy]

Originally Posted by BNaylor

Comparing apples to oranges.

Sex offender is a vague term and a lot of times the crime is not really that bad depending on what perspective you have. Plus there are females that are sex offenders like school teachers. If a female school teacher had sex with one of my sons before age 17 or as a minor I would give her a hug and give him an attaboy.

The point is, no one should generalize anyone because of there beliefs. It's like me thinkin every Catholic Priest is a pervert or a Pastor/Bishop are always sleeping around with hookers (Jimmy Swaggart) or every white people are serial killers. Get the point?

Gladhatter, I suggest you go talk to some of Muslims and ask questions. Hatred is not going to get you anywhere. All my teachers are nothing but the most humble people that I have met along with my friends and family. We're all humans and we're not perfect in any way. We're infallible.

[BNaylor]

Originally Posted by mellowboy

The point is, no one should generalize anyone because of there beliefs.

Still comparing apples to oranges and obviously there are a lot of one sided arguments in this thread.

I agree to a point but needless to say that is the perception of many Americans whether you like it or not. You can blame 9/11 or whatever. Since this is a free country we have freedom of expression/speech even though it may be based on bigotry or hatred. Acting out on that is another issue.

Here are some interesting reads. Check 'em out.

Source: Washington Post

Negative Perception Of Islam Increasing
Poll Numbers in U.S. Higher Than in 2001

Panel says Americans suffer from "Islamophobia," Muslims suffer from anti-Americanism

Personally as most can see I'm tolerant and supportive of people of the Muslim faith and/or Middle Easterners because I have a good understanding of them based on actual life experiences. I lived and worked in Saudi Arabia for over 3 years and currently work with many Iraqis that came to the U.S. over the past two years. They work in our Counter-Insurgency program. Now what is interesting is their hatred of one another which is another issue. Sunni versus Shia and Shia versus Sunni. Explain that one.

[mellowboy]

Originally Posted by BNaylor

Sunni versus Shia and Shia versus Sunni. Explain that one.

Only if you explain blacks vs whites/ Puerto Ricans vs Mexicans/ Chinese vs Japanese/ British vs Irish/ Protestants vs. Catholics....

[mellowboy]

Originally Posted by BNaylor

I agree to a point but needless to say that is the perception of many Americans whether you like it or not. You can blame 9/11 or whatever. Since this is a free country we have freedom of expression/speech even though it may be based on bigotry or hatred. Acting out on that is another issue.

I don't blame Gladhatter or anyone that thinks like him just because they simply don't know about Islam. They get it from the media and the media always gives out bad perception on everyone. Or from anti-Islamic websites claiming that they're "knowledgeable" about the religion.

I don't understand how it's a one sided argument when I'm trying to show that there's double standards in almost everything. I mean seriously who is perfect?? When Islam is about peace, why assume that every Muslim is peaceful? We make mistakes and again we are human. Islam is a code of life we live by and not everyone lives by the code or law.

[thegladhatter]

Originally Posted by BNaylor

I agree to a point but needless to say that is the perception of many Americans whether you like it or not. You can blame 9/11 or whatever. :

We can't blame a date! We need to remember what happened on that date at the hands of islamic nutsacks! Remember WHO did it and do everything possible to ensure that it NEVER happens again! Far too many have already forgotten.

[BNaylor]

Originally Posted by mellowboy

Only if you explain blacks vs whites/ Puerto Ricans vs Mexicans/ Chinese vs Japanese/ British vs Irish/ Protestants vs. Catholics....

I was waiting for the race card to be pulled. In my question to you which was fair I was not talking about people of different races. Using Iraq as an example the Sunnis and Shites are the same same race of people...i.e. Arab. Although they are of the same religion obviously they have major differences among each other including how Islam is supposed to work and continue to kill each other. I'm all ears.

[HotZ28]

Mellowboy, I guess we should assume that you are one of the more peaceful members of the Islamic faith and I just wish there were more like you!

BTW, what is the benefit of some Islamic terrorist sacrificing their own life to drive a car bomb into a group of innocent people? Do they get extra credit from "Allah" (The Moon God) in the hereafter for the more they kill; or does Allah only gives points for killing infidels and not necessarily innocent bystanders? In addition, do they suffer judgment (fewer virgins) for killing non-infidels? Sorry, but I just can't rationalize this type of religious extremism!

[blazee]

Originally Posted by HotZ28

(fewer virgins)

I've wondered about this, are these special virgins, so that after you screw them, you just push a button and turn them back into virgins? Regenerative vaginas maybe? Otherwise, what's the point after about a month none of them will be virgins anymore. Then you'll be stuck will all these bitches running around nagging the shit out of you for all eternity.

Hell, I guess it's better than spending an eternity, walking through a garden holding hands with some long haired dude named Jesus...