130HP DeLorean whoops Honda S2000, drunken brawls, hot blondes... average weekend ;)

[DMC12]

Yeah... but hey the flaming is nothing new here on AF. I just gotta wonder how they found us. Welcome to AF, I guess :smoka:

Oh, and 14:1 sounds wrong. Typo?

[honda troll]

First gear 3.133 * Final drive 4.10 * Primary reduction 1.16.

So, 3.133 * 4.10 * 1.16 = 14.9 overall first gear ratio. You need this number to figure out the force the car makes when in 1st gear. So at peak RWTQ, the S2k is making 2041lb/ft force. (137WTQ * 14.9) There is a bit more too, since you have to figure in wheel circumference, but I'll spare the details for another time.

[TerminalVelocity]

to the flaming assholes *wont mention newb names * lern to nod and smile. If this story wasnt real, which it was, I watched, like when the S2K dumped the clutch and spun those tires, kicking out the ass slightly, then you should just smile and go "good kill" Why? Because a good story is worth more than a shitty one. Now, why dont you go jump on the "My civic killed a Viper" when his mods include a shift nob and body kit....Why?,....maby because your from the S2K site, and cant take that one of your 30,000+ toys got beaten? Hmmm, if it smells like an asshole, and spits out crap. Serously, i'm probally going to get warned for this but damn, you people dont have a place here, this is a fourm for saying "hey, good job, nice car" NOT "hey, you couldnt have won for this reason and that" He said he raced cars before, I dont doubt him because he knows a team I know, this team defentally DOSENT advertise...Thing is I think he was on speed, which would defentally fuck up his racing skills, naimly shifting into wrong gears, grinding them etc, I dont know if he was doing this, his car was too loud at 9k rpm, and yes, I know what they sound like at 9 grand. Neather race was long, but DMC12 defentally has the torque advantage, because his 156ftlb's is almost always at 150 throughout the powerband, and his horses increase fast. Also the delorian weighs in at roughtly 2300, stock anyway, his D was lightened up alot, and I mean alot. Yes, he does still have his interior, but he was smart with how he reduced weight. I wont tell his secrets. And as I said, he does have some light mods, enough tomake him kill GT stangs (1996), GT Eclipses (2002) he pulls harder than my car up to 70, and I have a 0-60 of 6.3 seconds, and he pulls harder when he dosent launch. I can take him...not by much and its at 80mph...I have done pleanty of mods and lightening of my car too.

Hell, hes beaten a viper too *but the viper wasnt racing, still, he pulled a honda (no offence Hybrid)*

So to all ya haters, back off, or just smile and say good kill. Hell, flame the driver of the S2K, but lay off bashing a car you know NOTHING about. It makes you look about as bright as a muffler bearing.

End Rant....:bandit:

[nHobbes]

Originally posted by TerminalVelocity
to the flaming assholes *wont mention newb names * lern to nod and smile. If this story wasnt real, which it was, I watched, like when the S2K dumped the clutch and spun those tires, kicking out the ass slightly, then you should just smile and go "good kill" Why? Because a good story is worth more than a shitty one. Now, why dont you go jump on the "My civic killed a Viper" when his mods include a shift nob and body kit....Why?,....maby because your from the S2K site, and cant take that one of your 30,000+ toys got beaten? Hmmm, if it smells like an asshole, and spits out crap. Serously, i'm probally going to get warned for this but damn, you people dont have a place here, this is a fourm for saying "hey, good job, nice car" NOT "hey, you couldnt have won for this reason and that" He said he raced cars before, I dont doubt him because he knows a team I know, this team defentally DOSENT advertise...Thing is I think he was on speed, which would defentally fuck up his racing skills, naimly shifting into wrong gears, grinding them etc, I dont know if he was doing this, his car was too loud at 9k rpm, and yes, I know what they sound like at 9 grand. Neather race was long, but DMC12 defentally has the torque advantage, because his 156ftlb's is almost always at 150 throughout the powerband, and his horses increase fast. Also the delorian weighs in at roughtly 2300, stock anyway, his D was lightened up alot, and I mean alot. Yes, he does still have his interior, but he was smart with how he reduced weight. I wont tell his secrets. And as I said, he does have some light mods, enough tomake him kill GT stangs (1996), GT Eclipses (2002) he pulls harder than my car up to 70, and I have a 0-60 of 6.3 seconds, and he pulls harder when he dosent launch. I can take him...not by much and its at 80mph...I have done pleanty of mods and lightening of my car too.

Hell, hes beaten a viper too *but the viper wasnt racing, still, he pulled a honda (no offence Hybrid)*

So to all ya haters, back off, or just smile and say good kill. Hell, flame the driver of the S2K, but lay off bashing a car you know NOTHING about. It makes you look about as bright as a muffler bearing.

End Rant....:bandit:

Keep in mind that being a newbie on THIS board, does not always mean a person is new to internet car boards in general. Understand what that means or should I explain it a bit more? You seem a bit....challenged, especially in the intelligence department. You really should go back to school if you're done or think you are (based on your intellectual <sarcasm> posts, you are just a kid anyways, so STAY in school a LONG time).

Now the guy is on speed, etc? LOL Damn, I hear more and more excuses everyday! You failed to mention that before, am I correct? Oh, but it doesn't stop there. IF and IF he has mods as YOU say he does (beats this car and that), then WHY OH WHY did he specifically mention his HP NUMBERS??? Why say 130hp, when he has so much more?? Why didn't he tell us he was modified and make his story more believable?

Knowing a "team" is not BEING on a team. Understand the difference? I KNOW of a guy who races his car and gets 9sec 1/4 times, but that is not ME, so who cares????

"Hell, hes beaten a viper too *but the viper wasnt racing" : HAHAHAHAH...you gotta be kidding me right???? LMAO!!!

Read DMC12's sig...." This post may contain outright lies and middle-aged angry white male babble "

You two are pathetic. ENOUGH SAID!

You two do nothing but talk out of your azzes and contradict yourselves.

[DemonZX]

Whoa! Someone needs a cup of coffee!

[RACER D12]

nHobbes i think you should shoot your self or go away YOU know NOTHING about DMC12s car so what if he put 130hp IT GETS PEOPLES ATTENTION! beside it is hard to know how much Hp your making after you mod unless you get it Profesionally checked. And want to hear a story you wont beleave my dad beat a S2K on the Highway with our 93 E300 2.8! dont beleave me I DONT GIVE A because I know what happened. Also weight makes a big difference if he is under 2000lbs than he very well could have taken the S2K. And god if you ever post a thread here i am going to Flame:flamer: you with little dumb Questions. So what if he didnt put every little detal maybe he has a LIFE! Like TV said nod and smile I dont aways beleave what I hear here but i just nod a smile for the most part, I beleave TV and DMC12 if you stick around you will beleave them too and would take back that statement about them being kids.

[nHobbes]

Originally posted by RACER D12
nHobbes i think you should shoot your self or go away YOU know NOTHING about DMC12s car so what if he put 130hp IT GETS PEOPLES ATTENTION! beside it is hard to know how much Hp your making after you mod unless you get it Profesionally checked. And want to hear a story you wont beleave my dad beat a S2K on the Highway with our 93 E300 2.8! dont beleave me I DONT GIVE A because I know what happened. Also weight makes a big difference if he is under 2000lbs than he very well could have taken the S2K. And god if you ever post a thread here i am going to Flame:flamer: you with little dumb Questions. So what if he didnt put every little detal maybe he has a LIFE! Like TV said nod and smile I dont aways beleave what I hear here but i just nod a smile for the most part, I beleave TV and DMC12 if you stick around you will beleave them too and would take back that statement about them being kids.

Dude, you are a moron. Read the whole thread. He says HIMSELF that he has 130hp, so please keep that in mind. Under 2000lbs? LMAO!

Shoot myself? HAHAHAHA You and people like you do nothing for the gene pool. You should have been swallowed and not conceived.

[c steve]

Right, so first a 17 second car (honestly probably closer to a 19 second car with age) beats an S2k because it has more torque -- and we all must beleive this story because the author mentions that the S2k spun his wheels -- which of course must make the race true .... and then someone claims to beat an S2k with an even slower economy model Mercedes -- on the highway no less.

Next up -- Pinto beats S2k.

[honda troll]

You can't argue with someone when they just flat out make up stories and lies.

If you have a 17+ second delorean and you "beat" an S2000... he wasn't racing.

If you had your economy class mercedes, and your dad was driving and he "beat" an S2000.... the S2k again, wasn't racing.

[DMC12]

You guys are too funny:

"You should have been swallowed and not conceived" -nHobbes
"Next up -- Pinto beats S2k" -c steve
"You two do nothing but talk out of your azzes and contradict yourselves" -nHobbes

Why is it so hard to believe that I raced an S2000 and won? Because I left out the really boring details? Gentlemen (or ladies), this is AutomotiveForums... where really long, detailed posts are overlooked. Also, a while back people were banned left & right for flaming, hence my signature: " This post may contain outright lies and middle-aged angry white male babble." I put that there so that nobody could argue that I was flaming and get banned -or- no undercover cops could claim that I was a big-time law breaker (which I'm not - I'm probably THE best driver you'll ever see). I mean after all, this is an internet forum, a place where people can have fun discussing hobbies and trading stories.

I put the 130HP figure in the headline because that is what people have told me the DMC makes. If that is true, then why can I waste an S2000? Mustang GT? If my car runs 19 in the quarter mile and weighs 3,000 pounds, then why do I win mostly all my races? Folks, I'm just here to prove that the DMC isn't the P.O.S. you think it is. It was created by JZD, the guy who invented the muscle car! But apparently real-world proof isn't enough. So what is it going to take?

[c steve]

If my car runs 19 in the quarter mile and weighs 3,000 pounds, then why do I win mostly all my races?

Because you either race 80's Toyota Camry's or Ford Festiva's -- or those you think are racing are not.

Folks, I'm just here to prove that the DMC isn't the P.O.S. you think it is.

No one is saying the DMC is a POS -- but then none of us are willing to believe that they were ever or are now fast cars. A 2.85 liter V6 pumping out 130 horsepower in a car that weighs 2712 pounds is not by any stretch of the imagination a performance vehicle. Honestly, there are minivans and SUV's which will out accelerate your car. I am looking at the parking lot as I type this, various sedans and trucks and I can't find one which is slower than your DMC.....

[RACER D12]

If you had your economy class mercedes, and your dad was driving and he "beat" an S2000.... the S2k again, wasn't racing.

Economy Its a V8! and its chiped so the governer is turned off, and I know the guy was racing because he fliped us off and gunned it, so my dad gunned it to and of course our V8 wins or are you going to fight about how a 4cyl could beat a v8

[carrrnuttt]

Look, people...DMC12 is a well-respected member of this forum and so is TerminalVelocity...and neither one is known for lying or making things up. They were both witnesses to the race and, I for one believe them.

If you notice, this isn't a car or make-specific forum. Most of us here like most cars, although there is a lot of bias towards Hondas...but mostly for riced-out Civics. Rest assured, S2000s are respected by most, and feared by some.

I have spent some time defending Hondas in here, both as cars, and as a company, but bottomline is, none of us were there. We don't how DMCs car was configured, and we don't know how the S2000 was. For all you know he had fouling injectors(just an example). I myself have beaten other cars in mine that I didn't think I should have. I didn't even bother posting them in here or in the Honda street/track racing forum because I knew this exact thing is what would have happened to me.

Bottomline is, if we can't trust each other's words in here, why even bother coming in here to talk? So, till they have absolutely proven themselves to be trolls(which they're not), or absoulute liars...I'll believe them.

For all the S2000 owners who obviously got us linked through whatever board they're from, welcome to AF. Stay and chat, but please, NO MORE FLAMES. Let's leave it as is...and if any of your S2000 buddies are near him, ask them to contact and challenge him. There you go.

P.S.: as for the torque-multiplied-by-gearing factor...remember, the DeLorean has gears too.

[c steve]

Economy Its a V8! and its chiped so the governer is turned off, and I know the guy was racing because he fliped us off and gunned it, so my dad gunned it to and of course our V8 wins or are you going to fight about how a 4cyl could beat a v8

The E300 2.8 has a 2.8 liter inline 6 that puts out 194 horsepower in a car that weighs over 3400 pounds. To put it simply it is a slow pig and is going to have a hard time pulling on a semi truck let alone an S2k.

I should also add that the S2k -- even with it's 2.0 liter 4 cylinder does in fact out accelerate a number of cars with V8's.

Sit down, shut up.

[DemonZX]

I think this is a bunch of bull. i don't mind discussing the mechanics of the cars. But, this childish arguing is pissing me off. I come here for and to give advice, not to argue over what car is faster. Like two children arguing over which Pokemon has more magic. So cut out this crap. Csteve you have a minimal amount of posts, and i respect you for your knowledge, but you need not be calling out people who have a reputation on this forum. I don't know how old everyone is, but they are acting like a group of 4 year olds.

I'm done.