1991 Mustang GT Vs. 1991 Z28 or IROC-Z

[HiFlow5 0]

Originally posted by BlkCamaroSS
Since when did an LS1 become unbeatable, yojcbeast???

Thanks for the support! I will admit to have been beaten by modded LS1's before, but usually it's not a problem.

[BlkCamaroSS]

Always a bigger fish in the sea, regardless of badging...

[1BAD305]

this thread is full of bullshit

[GTStang]

[PWMAN]

GTSTANG, why if you own a mustang would you give so many good comments about an LS1?
BTW an 03 Cobra SVT will beat an LS1 F-body. Even the Mach 1 gets close. The Mach 1 can do high 12's simply by adding drag radials. So you think practically the same engine supercharged is going to do mid 13's? Where did you get that time anyway?

[BigDanTheMan]

well it's certainly not sarcasm, Einstein!







oh yea, that's right - that was a double dose.

[GTStang]

I guess some things just go over peoples heads.

[1BAD305]

well the 305 maybe weak but that must make the 302 weaker. my friends 88 GT 5spd has more mods then my 89 iroc 305 5spd and my cars gone quicker and more mph at the track. on the street i spanked em when the car was bone stock. id love what a modded l98 would do. if u think hat the foxy body stang is the only car u can get into the 13s easily ur very wrong. and for the statement that fox body cars are lighter then thirdgens that same 88 GT weighs more then my car, mine weighing 3390 with me and my friends over 3400 with him in it. id love to see the 245hp 345ft lbs b2L go up against a stock gt 5spd. i have magazine reviews from when all these cars were in production, they got a stock 90 iroc to go 14.3 @ 98mph. for those of u in the know, with just drag radials that car should be able to do atleast a 14.0

[HiFlow5 0]

Originally posted by 1BAD305
well the 305 maybe weak but that must make the 302 weaker. my friends 88 GT 5spd has more mods then my 89 iroc 305 5spd and my cars gone quicker and more mph at the track. on the street i spanked em when the car was bone stock. id love what a modded l98 would do. if u think hat the foxy body stang is the only car u can get into the 13s easily ur very wrong. and for the statement that fox body cars are lighter then thirdgens that same 88 GT weighs more then my car, mine weighing 3390 with me and my friends over 3400 with him in it.

The 305 is a junk motor. With it's long stroke and small bore, it takes the motor a while to wind up and make power, making the 302's shorter stroke and bigger bore far better at making power down low where it's needed. Also a stock 88 GT weights 3,193 lbs, with a little weight reduction it can easily weight under 3000 lbs no problem. Oh and just because you beat one Mustang, that must mean all Mustangs are slow and under powered! Now if my dad's mini van beat a Camaro RS, that must mean his heavy ass Safari can whip the snot out of any 2.8L RS......
Also, 97mph seems a little slow for a 13.9, what elevation were you running at?

[GTStang]

Originally posted by 1BAD305
well the 305 maybe weak but that must make the 302 weaker. my friends 88 GT 5spd has more mods then my 89 iroc 305 5spd and my cars gone quicker and more mph at the track. on the street i spanked em when the car was bone stock. id love what a modded l98 would do. if u think hat the foxy body stang is the only car u can get into the 13s easily ur very wrong. and for the statement that fox body cars are lighter then thirdgens that same 88 GT weighs more then my car, mine weighing 3390 with me and my friends over 3400 with him in it. id love to see the 245hp 345ft lbs b2L go up against a stock gt 5spd. i have magazine reviews from when all these cars were in production, they got a stock 90 iroc to go 14.3 @ 98mph. for those of u in the know, with just drag radials that car should be able to do atleast a 14.0

[PWMAN]

Originally posted by HiFlow5 0

The 305 is a junk motor. With it's long stroke and small bore, it takes the motor a while to wind up and make power, making the 302's shorter stroke and bigger bore far better at making power down low where it's needed. Also a stock 88 GT weights 3,193 lbs, with a little weight reduction it can easily weight under 3000 lbs no problem. Oh and just because you beat one Mustang, that must mean all Mustangs are slow and under powered! Now if my dad's mini van beat a Camaro RS, that must mean his heavy ass Safari can whip the snot out of any 2.8L RS......
Also, 97mph seems a little slow for a 13.9, what elevation were you running at?

Although I agree about the 305, the V6 camaro thing is a little stupid. Wow it can beat a 135 HP camaro. What minivan is it?

[HiFlow5 0]

Originally posted by PWMAN


Although I agree about the 305, the V6 camaro thing is a little stupid. Wow it can beat a 135 HP camaro. What minivan is it?

That was sarcasim, maybe a little hard to tell over the net. It's also a 4.3L GMC Safari.

[1BAD305]

Originally posted by HiFlow5 0

The 305 is a junk motor. With it's long stroke and small bore, it takes the motor a while to wind up and make power, making the 302's shorter stroke and bigger bore far better at making power down low where it's needed. Also a stock 88 GT weights 3,193 lbs, with a little weight reduction it can easily weight under 3000 lbs no problem. Oh and just because you beat one Mustang, that must mean all Mustangs are slow and under powered! Now if my dad's mini van beat a Camaro RS, that must mean his heavy ass Safari can whip the snot out of any 2.8L RS......
Also, 97mph seems a little slow for a 13.9, what elevation were you running at?

lol dont try to enlighten me on either the 302 or 305s bore and stroke configuration. im well aware of a 305s disadvantages. not very bright when it comes to engines eh? if u knew what u were talkin about ud know that a logner stroke will create more torque then a shorter one. 302s are known for doggy bottom end and high rpm power. hense the reason why GM produced them for SCCA racing. their a great engine for waht they were designd for but sucked on the street. until ford came out with them again and improved the head design to make the 302s power band a lot more streetable. a 305 will create more lowend torque then a 302 will. the long tube runner design of tuned port injection is also designd for killer low end and midrange power. if a shorter stroke creates more low end then why are there kits to lengthen stroke in engines for more torque and HP? hense a 383 stroker motor wich uses a 350s 4" bore and a 400s stroke. a 383 is known for killer low end and midrange power. get ur facts straight buddy, ur one confused ford boy. and yes where i come from most 5.0s that are stock or slightly modded run the same times as thirdgens do.

[1BAD305]

Originally posted by GTStang

you callin BS on me buddy? which part didnt u understand so i can enlighten u on it. or is it the fact that ur 5.0 is slower then my friends and my iroc and ur a little jealous perhaps?

[1BAD305]

all these mods and u can only get a 13.8 @ 100 out of it, gees now i see why ur feathers are a little ruffled, especially with that car weighing in at 3200 lbs, ud think itd be a little quicker?

List of engine mods
Rebuilt 302
Edelbrock Performer heads
FRPP 1.6 roller rockers
TrickFlow Street Heat intake
Crane 2040 cam
70mm MAC TB
75mm Pro-M MAF
MAC CAI
Underdrives
Accel distributor
BBK short tube headers
O/R h-pipe
dynomax SuperTurbo mufflers
Revomed smog system
Fluidyne alum radiator

List of drivetrain mods
Built AOD tranny
TCI 3000 rpm stall converter
B&M trans cooler
FRPP Alum driveshaft
3.73 gears
B&M Hammer shifter

Suspension mods (being installed this spring)
Eibach drag launch springs
Lakewood 70/30 struts 50/50 shocks
(installed)
SSM lift bars
Subframes and strenghtened torque boxes
BFGoodrich drag radials