M3 Opponents

[hrecab02]

hey robslob, go home hick!!...nobody wants you here. we are interested in cars, not shit wrapped with fiberglass. please dont talk when u dont kno shit. your talkin as if you were tiff needles. your prolly just a little 16yr shit from south dakota or something. fuck your cobras, ur vettes, and ur v8's. and what "BOV" said was soooooo true. do you kno what happens when u put a v8 in an m3??? yea so dont fuckin talk bitch!!
and here are ur stupid little smiles.. :finger:

[myBOVownsU]

I don't know sh*t about cars? Opinion Bullsh*t? Well until you find your facts on the Z06, I'll show YOU some facts.

they are practically fucken hatchbacks-----not even weighing close to 3,000 lbs.

#1. The WRX also comes in a sedan.
#2. According to Subaru.com, the Sedan weighs 3080 lbs. with a manual transmission, and 3140 lbs. with an automatic transmission.
The wagon weighs 3165 lbs. manual, and 3220 lbs. automatic.

Those #s are pretty damn close to 3000 lbs. Especially a manual sedan which is the one i was talking about. Maybe the people at Subaru are sh*theads, and they don't know what they're talking about and don't know sh*t about cars compared to you. But by taking one sentence of yours, I proved how little YOU know about cars when you claim to know so much. I guess I showed my stupidity once again.

And you keep talkin about this Kenny Brown performance like its god or something. Let me tell you about a little company called TurboXS that modifies WRXs. They did the quarter mile in 11.96 with under $5K in mods($4976 to be exact). 11.96 with $4976 So i guess it qualifies as "modding under $10k". Take a look at that before calling BS. And to give you a little more information, this car runs at over 18psi. Can it be?? Is it possible to spend $30k total and have a car that is under 400hp and is faster and more reliable than the Z06?? I guess it is. But as I said before, I didn't want to turn this into an argument about WRXs and Minis. Just wanted to show you your claims for aftermarket prodcuts doesn't matter, because there is always something better and something faster, and I find it surprising that a Subaru can be modified to take V8 Z06s and Cobras.

And you're telling me not to be such a magazine racer? I can pick out maybe 3 times where you talked about magazines and their stats, and I did it to show you how much of a Magazine reader you are. You constantly keep referring to stats and performance test. To tell you the truth, they don't mean anything. If a magazine says a Kia is better than a Ferrari and you going to be convinced that you should get a Kia over a Ferrari? It sounds as if you are that narrow-minded and might actaully contemplate doing something like that. So the Z06 is faster. What else? Name 1 other thing that you can say about that car? Name 1 other reason anybody would take a Z06 over an M3. Just because it posts such high slalom speed doesn't mean it handles better. And i can pick out a handful of people I know with BMWs with over 150,000 miles on them still running with no problems. Show me one Chevy or Ford that can match that. When you talk about buying a car it's not just about speed. If all anybody cared about is speed, there are much cheaper alternatvies than getting a Z06 or a Cobra or an M3(read above). So maybe when you grow up and realize speed isn't everything, and that people that have Class are the ones who buy M3s over Z06s, you should come back and talk in a BMW forum. Until then, maybe you should go kiss Kenny Brown's ass some more.

[crayzayjay]

Robslob, instead of coming in here calling people idiots and insulting everyone while not even considering what they post, try using your head a little bit and maybe, just maybe, try not to be such a dick.
a 911 has better handling than a Z06, as does an M3, and an M3 CSL would absolutely mutilate it. Try to get the power issue out of your head, and your remark about hatchbacks is idiotic. WHat does weight have to do with anything?
I agree with the previous post, i think you are a 16 yr old spotty prick who likes talking shit. this time my friend, YOU are pulling shit out of YOUR ass

The question what most of you have to ask yourselfs is do i want a chevy? or do i want a bimmmmer? and who ever picks the chevy is a retard

I couldnt agree more. Which leads me to the following conclusion
Rob, dont be a f*cking retard

Best wishes :finger:
jay

[hrecab02]

couldnt have said that better jay..

cheers..lol

[myBOVownsU]

Still looking for facts???

Here is a fact...
Fact: Kenny Brown likes it in the Ass!!

[Marvelous3]

Oh and while we're on the topic of how great vettes and all that....they still use 50 year old technology. Who the hell uses pushrods on their engines anymore!? It's the 21st centruy and they're still using 1960's technology. A 5.7 liter engine and they make 350hp stock...that my friends is not efficient at all. 3.3 liters and you get 333hp from an M3...Yeah you would need a blower to get your rustang to 500hp because your engine isn't efficient enough to do it with all motor. Push a SC on a M3 and run 15psi(if that's even possible) and see what would happen.

Ever seen a Civic SI (1.6 liter Vetec) run away from a Viper? I have...the Civic was all motor by the way

[crayzayjay]

Marvelous post. Very well said. Couldnt match my thoughts any more. Its 343 bhp from an M3 btw

[hermitage]

I modded my '00 S4 with Chip = $500.00, DP's = $1600.00

Car cost me $41K stock. Do the math and that's $43,100K. My car puts out 349HP and I'm pretty even with M3's on the Highway. Raced one last week and had a slight edge on him.

For $43K I don't think the M3 compares. I'll say this though, the M3 is the ultimate Chick magnet....lucky for me I don't have to worry about that!

Please no flames, I'm just stating a fact.

[crayzayjay]

How much is a stock M3 in the US?

[hermitage]

It's hard to find one for less than $55-$57K USD. What's the price across the pond?

[Deakins]

The M3 targets the RS4, not the S4.
On the other hand, the new S4 can keep up with the M5.

[Driven1965]

Originally posted by Deakins
The M3 targets the RS4, not the S4.
On the other hand, the new S4 can keep up with the M5.

The new S4 is slower than an M5.
60 less hp, nearly as much weight, and the parasitic losses of an awd system = slower.

[crayzayjay]

An M3 over here is about £40k.

The M3 targets the RS4, not the S4.

I dont see the RS4 as a rival for the M3. Theyre completely different cars

On the other hand, the new S4 can keep up with the M5.

Even if it did, it doesnt make them competitors IMO. The M5 is a size up

[hermitage]

M3 and S4 are competitors. The M3 was built with the S4 in mind. The previous generation was in direct competition to the S4.

The problem now is that in stock form, the B5 S4 is no mathc for the current M3. It's not that they aren't competitors, it's that the M3 is so much better in stock form.

However, as my previous post, for a few bucks anyone can take a B5 S4 and match up with a new M3, and still save about $14K USD. I don't know about you, but I would consider that point when buying an M3. Therefore it is competition.

[crayzayjay]

The M3 was built with the S4 in mind

With all respect, that should be the other way around.

Ok, if you spend a couple grand on the the S4 it will match the M3 on a straight. But its more difficult (and therefore expensive) to get it to handle like an M3. Thats mainly where the difference in price comes from, the M3 is much more entertaining to drive.