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???????? was it really? thats awesome. i want an r1 sooo bad or a yzf even i think i'ma get one sometime next month, i'm leaning towards the yzf or a harley-type bike, what do u guys think. p.s. i know this is off subject
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??? What the hell are you talking about hahahaha. Let's put this in Plain English does it add power? Does an Intake add power? Then it is a power adder.

It may not add power like a Turbo, Supercharger or nitrous but it still add's power. Got that picture is soo freakin ugly lol.
Well, it comes down to each person has their own definition of what a power adder is. I, for one, associate the words "Power Adder" with forced induction units, like the three mentioned above. Everything else is bolt ons. Your definition is more generalized, to encompass everything.

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So how come in all motor drag circuits, youre allowed to have boltons and built internals if the rules specifically state no power adder?
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In the 89-95 manual SHOs came a NA 3.0L V6 putting out 220 HP and around 200 TQ. The 93-95 autos came with a 3.2L V6 to bump the TQ up to cope with the slushbox. The 96-99 SHOs only came with and auto and a 3.4L V8 putting out 235 HP and 225 TQ. the 89 and 90s are the fastest because they are the lightest

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Noob,

The term "Power-adder" is generally reserved for when someone is talking about adding nitrous, adding a supercharger, or adding a turbo or two. Everything else is considered a bolt-on, aftermarket part. Let's be honest, no one gives a crap about the rated horsepower for a part, because unless you car is totally built, it's not going to give you the rated hp. They may add power, but they're not in the same league as the others.

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i have to agree. any forced induction i would consider a power adder, ive driven all kinds of hondas and acuras and even though twin cam ones move.... which would really add more power, a supercharger...or a exhaust? you be the judge.
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did you ever drive an integra vtec or a prelude vtec, they kick in, u can literally feel the "bang", the rsx is smoother. if you had you'd know. and i've driven alot of turbos, you act like a turbo will blast you into outer space, this is not the case my friend. even in a 911 or a twin turbo z, the "kick" isn't really that significant, now when i floor my 351 in my '69, thats a kick.
It kicks in in your riceboy mind. VTEC sounds like shit to me. Makes the motor feel like it has a flat spot in my opinion. I would "kick" back and try to learn. :finger:
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It kicks in in your riceboy mind. VTEC sounds like shit to me. Makes the motor feel like it has a flat spot in my opinion. I would "kick" back and try to learn. :finger:
First off, not to flame, but you just made yourself sound like a jealous fool. Did you want to get a VTEC engine in your '89 and just couldn't afford it? THAT is how you just sounded to me. I know I'll get a reaction from you on this...but if I don't, I apologize, you're a better man than what you sounded like above.

Second, do you EVEN know how VTEC/iVTEC(Honda), or VVTi(Toyota), or VarioCam(Porsche), MIVEC(Mitsubishi-Japan/Europe only), VANOS(BMW), and the variable cam-timing tricks employed by Nissans and Mazdas in Japan and Ferrari in all their newer models and some older ones. You act like you know something and he doesn't...telling HIM to learn...he OWNED a dealership, I am sure he knows enough. Bottomline, don't speak ahead of your brain wavelength.

Oh, and Ferrari INVENTED variable-cam timing for it's F1 cars...Honda came second and PERFECTED it and won 2 F1 manufacturer's championships...and was the first to use it on a road-car(late '80's Civics and CR-X's, NSX in the US).
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Old 09-16-2002, 05:27 AM
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It kicks in in your riceboy mind. VTEC sounds like shit to me. Makes the motor feel like it has a flat spot in my opinion. I would "kick" back and try to learn. :finger:
my "riceboy" mind?? well. i guess carnutt put it perfectly, nuff said. not dissing on civics, i have one myself. but man did u just post because you had nothing better to do? I've driven and owned more cars then you'll ever ride in..I guess it's cuz i'm a "noob"
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lol thank you "vtec isn't a power add" lol what a fool, it's as much a power add as a turbo is....i love it when people come on who don't know what they're talking about people like julian trip me out. just compare the old vtec to the old non vtec and to the new ivtec. hence..power add.
That is the statement that ade you sound like a noob, well in my mind anyhow, unless I am reading into it wrong, and if I am; I'm sorry. Vtec in NO way will ever dream of adding as much power as turbo does.
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now that i read that, it does sound like a stupid comment. i guess i didn't word it correctly. i was trying to explain that the way it "Feels" when an engine reaches vtec or i-vtec is the same way it feels when a turbo comes on. it's the same feeling of "more power" i know that vtec isn't anywhere close to the rush of a turbo....have u ever driven or rode in a 911s, i loved it when we got those into my dealership.
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my "riceboy" mind?? well. i guess carnutt put it perfectly, nuff said. not dissing on civics, i have one myself. but man did u just post because you had nothing better to do? I've driven and owned more cars then you'll ever ride in..I guess it's cuz i'm a "noob"

Yeah OK. You are a smart person to make an assumption like that when you dont know a DAMN THING about me. Or who i am for that matter. AND if you read the moderators post you will see that you will see he apologizes if I dont react all pissed off to his post.

To Carnutt- No I am not jealous of VTEC, i'm actually proud of the fact that my non vtec car spanks 90% of the vtec cars I encounter. I would even run Meeks RSX if he wanted. (Dont bother meek, my cousin just got a 2002 and his has already been romped on) Last year I made $43K.
I would hope that you wouldnt put me in the non affordable category as far as putting a VTEC motor in my hatch. My civic is my commuter. I wanted something that would just get me around on the highways faster. Getting around 495 by DC is hell with a 1.5. Ask meek he should know. And yes I have a perfectly good understanding about how VTEC, VVTi,etc. works. Thank you for that wonderful definition. I have seen it on the net about 100 times before. Perhaps Im to the point on this site where I shouldnt come here anymore. Numbskulls are everywhere it seems. I would like to see some posts that teach me stuff. Rarely do I see this anymore. Maybe moderators should post stuff. Am I missing a forum that is more informative?
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Yeah OK. You are a smart person to make an assumption like that when you dont know a DAMN THING about me. Or who i am for that matter. AND if you read the moderators post you will see that you will see he apologizes if I dont react all pissed off to his post.

To Carnutt- No I am not jealous of VTEC, i'm actually proud of the fact that my non vtec car spanks 90% of the vtec cars I encounter. I would even run Meeks RSX if he wanted. (Dont bother meek, my cousin just got a 2002 and his has already been romped on) Last year I made $43K.
I would hope that you wouldnt put me in the non affordable category as far as putting a VTEC motor in my hatch. My civic is my commuter. I wanted something that would just get me around on the highways faster. Getting around 495 by DC is hell with a 1.5. Ask meek he should know. And yes I have a perfectly good understanding about how VTEC, VVTi,etc. works. Thank you for that wonderful definition. I have seen it on the net about 100 times before. Perhaps Im to the point on this site where I shouldnt come here anymore. Numbskulls are everywhere it seems. I would like to see some posts that teach me stuff. Rarely do I see this anymore. Maybe moderators should post stuff. Am I missing a forum that is more informative?
You have a 1.5L non-vtec? Are you running F/I?
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You have a 1.5L non-vtec? Are you running F/I?
Nah bro, thats what came with my std hatch. i should have said getting around 495 with my old 1.5 was hell. sorry for the confusion. now I gots da DOHC in da hizzouse!
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Yeah OK. You are a smart person to make an assumption like that when you dont know a DAMN THING about me. Or who i am for that matter. AND if you read the moderators post you will see that you will see he apologizes if I dont react all pissed off to his post.

To Carnutt- No I am not jealous of VTEC, i'm actually proud of the fact that my non vtec car spanks 90% of the vtec cars I encounter. I would even run Meeks RSX if he wanted. (Dont bother meek, my cousin just got a 2002 and his has already been romped on) Last year I made $43K.
I would hope that you wouldnt put me in the non affordable category as far as putting a VTEC motor in my hatch. My civic is my commuter. I wanted something that would just get me around on the highways faster. Getting around 495 by DC is hell with a 1.5. Ask meek he should know. And yes I have a perfectly good understanding about how VTEC, VVTi,etc. works. Thank you for that wonderful definition. I have seen it on the net about 100 times before. Perhaps Im to the point on this site where I shouldnt come here anymore. Numbskulls are everywhere it seems. I would like to see some posts that teach me stuff. Rarely do I see this anymore. Maybe moderators should post stuff. Am I missing a forum that is more informative?
if i had purchased the rsx to drag, i'd be a fool. thats why i have 3 other cars i'd rather drag in. in response to you running my rsx-s, i've only lost to one civic yet, and he said he had nitrous. all i have is a sri right now. and in response to $43k, so what?? I made 7 times that when i was 22 and paid my top salesmen more then that. i'm done arguing w/you, you win.
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