why do mustang guys hate import guys?

[Hypsi87]

Originally Posted by lanevoMR

here I will give a bit of information that will most certainly perplex most of those ignoramus' that comprise much of the japanese car hating crowd.. that will exemplify my point of the level of ignorance pervasive in the domestic crowd

if torque is the all important factor in making a car fast..

Why do the Honda/Toyota F1 cars that make ONLY around 90 ft-lbs of peak torque around 16,000 rpm run the quarter mile in around 9 seconds and 0-60 in under 3 seconds... ?

I bet I could out 60 foot that car. That car makes up for it in the big end. What does that car redline at??? if it's peak torque is at 16,000 RPM. motors make there peak torque at a lot lower rpm then the redline. Where do you get your info??? I think it is a like of BS. think of like the ol' 2.5L motor.6,000rpm with 150lb of torque made 100hp. so 3 times the speed is 3 times the powerI thought they're making like 600hp or so. so the math doesn't work out at all.

[90Stangjc]

Originally Posted by Ern_Ball

MOst ppl buy hondas cause they are cheap and use little gas but there is a shitloud of things in every store for them so they can rice them to make ppl think they are fast! as far as inport cars not pushing as much as a stang or any of that bull shit look at the 2003 subar wrx sti that will talk and spit out any gt yoou have stock with also having thta 300 lbs you say parents wont buy there kids! I think anybody who puts time and there money to make there car the way they want it should get respect! The whole point is to have what you want not to try and be like everyone else is! I mean hell ppl talk shit about there hondas and mustang owners always bitch but there are a million mustangs around I hate seeing them cause there everywhere there as bad as civics maybe there just to much alike

I just wanna say the reason the subaru wrx sti will "spit out" any gt owner is because of the price, the $30,000 price. The reason there are a "million mustangs around" is because most people (including me) dont have the money to dish out into a import to make it fast, i was bought a stock mustang and stock, it is quick. I also dont have the $30,000 to go out and buy a new Lancer Evo or WRX, so therefore, i buy the cheapest...yet fastest thing i can....a mustang.

[Hypsi87]

Originally Posted by 90Stangjc

I just wanna say the reason the subaru wrx sti will "spit out" any gt owner is because of the price, the $30,000 price. The reason there are a "million mustangs around" is because most people (including me) dont have the money to dish out into a import to make it fast, i was bought a stock mustang and stock, it is quick. I also dont have the $30,000 to go out and buy a new Lancer Evo or WRX, so therefore, i buy the cheapest...yet fastest thing i can....a mustang.

Throw enough money at your GT to equal 30k and watch that STI in your rearview mirror

[HiFlow5 0]

Originally Posted by Hypsi87

Throw enough money at your GT to equal 30k and watch that STI in your rearview mirror

Yeah I raced a STI at the track. Those are quick cars, but we were pretty much dead even in the 1/4 mile. Only thing he had going for him was the AWD, that really helps in getting very low 60 ft times.

[83_Z28]

blkcamaro, is it fair to have a race car like a mustang or camaro v a economy compact car like a prelude? thats not a real fair race...the rx-8 and the 350z cost about the same as the svt cobra and perform about the same.....and stang racer i love my camaro and all but im just sayin the rice burners have the reliability unlike the domestic car's

[BlkCamaroSS]

That's exactly what I'm saying. If I saw those on a day to day basis and they raced me, all would be nice with the world. Considering that I don't, they just sit on car lots around here, the only thing that I do see is stupid people with their stupid cars, point of origin regardless. Anything worth it's weight from overseas is too expensive to see out racing, hence the reason why there are Civics everywhere.

The day that a 350Z and an RX8, both stock, perform like an 03 Cobra, is the day that I give up my SS. Just not gonna happen.

Also, a "riceburner's" reputation for reliability, as I believe it has been stated before, is not all that it's cracked up to be. It's gotten blown up way beyond belief since these cars are so popular right now. Beating on those cars gives the same results as beating on american made cars. What pisses me off the most is when people come up to me and tell me that my car will be dead 50k-100k miles down the road, and theirs will go on for 3 or 4 hundred thousand. If they have their car long enough to prove that to me, come back in that amount of time and we'll see who's car is more immaculate and running well. Until you can show me that, spouting off about future events is retarded...

[83_Z28]

my dad has had hid 6 cylinder 2 wheel drive toyota pickup for 12 years now.....has 170k miles and only things wrong with it is spark plugs every once and awhile steering stabilizer and clutch is all hes pretty much replaced.......my 83 camaro had a 305 but it died my radiator hose broke...my carb messed up now around 3-4k rpm my engine stalls in 2nd gear and my 83 only has 120-130k miles.....i like domestic cars but there more for a sunday car instead of every day car thats why id buy a tocoma 4 wheel drive if i could afford one with my camaro

[BigDanTheMan]

yo this thread used to be civilized - and has grown off topic. the topic is too large to beable to compair japanese cars and american cars. true a type r can dust focus, but a ws6 would take the r out for a walk but then summon the sti, ect ect. apples and oranges - it depends on what you are in the mood for.

[GTStang]

I don't have a problem with import owners or people who like to hop up import cars. I have a problem with people who are deluted in thier thinking and statements.
I have respect for true import sports car SupraTT, STi, NSX, 3000GTVR4 but those are not econobox Civic Hatchbacks which probable makes up about 95% of that 50% of sales in America. Those cars also make up maybe 2% of Import stree racers. But I'd take an 03 Cobra over any of those cars and most of them the Cobra is cheaper.
So who cares what honda/Toyota does in IRL, F1, Cart. The days of Ford,Chevy, Mopar dumping big money into things like that have since passed. They really don't need to, that's what Trans-AM Racing in the late 60's was for.
Mileage and reliability... I love import owners that truly belive every car that is built is going to last 300,000, 400,000 miles whatever without any major problems. I have seen just as many blown engine 100,000+ mile imports as domestics.

[fastang]

hey therr buddy, i personly don't got a prob wit imports... i had an 89 lude for three years, never licenced but raced on the track lots. it was nice, great handling car... anyways, most of my friends n' the crew i roll wit have imports. but as long as its fast, looks good, and you got respect fo your car, i don't really care what ya drive!
peace buddy

[Mendari]

Originally Posted by lanevoMR

Why was Toyota the first with an electric/gas production hybrid?

LanevoMR,
How about this question?

Why would more women rather have a boyfriend that drives a Corvette instead of a Toyota Echo?

Ooops. This might conflict with your reasoning. Sorry.

[Hypsi87]

Originally Posted by Mendari

LanevoMR,
How about this question?

Why would more women rather have a boyfriend that drives a Corvette instead of a Toyota Echo?

Ooops. This might conflict with your reasoning. Sorry.

hehehe ture true. Man I have a hard enough time getting a women to check out my car and like it. (Buick=no girls ) I'd really hate to see a guy with an Echo.

As for your john deere.... I think im crazy enough to take it down the track. . Do you really have that stuff done to it?? that is wiked if you do

[poison_ivey]

ok, im on the scene, and its time to clean up this bull shit

'my import can get to 200k+ miles on the engine and ur domestic will blow up after 3 miles'
TRUE i agree 100%
BUT
IT DEPENDS ON HOW U DRIVE THE CAR. if you drive ur honda civic the way its ment to be driven- @ or slightly above speed limit, not reving the engine hard, ect., then yeah, it could happen. there are plenty of ford and gm trucks that ppl own that can get 200k+ ez.

'but wait, thats the trucks, im talking about cars!'

hold on stupid- most people who drive trucks dont race down the street, most of the trucks are owned my men, so they take care of there trucks. any mustang, camero or what ever the fuck u wanna throw out there can get 200k+ on the engie.
peroid.

[poison_ivey]

o yeah and this-

'toyota make a F1 car that has 2 ft-lb of torque @ 2 million rpms.'

ok, im sure they did
lets use lanevoMR's toyota, which 'make ONLY around 90 ft-lbs of peak torque around 16,000 rpm run the quarter mile in around 9 seconds and 0-60 in under 3 seconds'

are u sure?
u need to go here- http://auto.howstuffworks.com/question622.htm
u are stupid. the math dont work unless im fucking retarded and some how made it to precal by mistake.
torque*rpm/5252=horsepewer.
so
90*16,000/5252=274.2
274.2 horses
damn
i envy that car.
ok, on some dyno slips, u see that hp is on the rise when torque is decling, but damn.
but lets say that this engine can some how reve to 32k and lets say that its torque is 85
85*32000/5252=517.9 ~520 hp
holy hell.

if im wrong in any way, then let me know and send a link.
dont just say ur wrong, and ur dumb.
all in all, LOOK UR SHIT UP.
prove me worng and send a link. i not gonna take ur damn word for it.

[poison_ivey]

i hope yall dont take that as a flame, but it pisses me off when ppl dont know what they talking about, and then they dont admit they are wrong.
if im wrong, tell me, prove it to me and ill say im sorry, my bad, ect.