Some of you Honda boys Confuse me...

[91civicDXdude]

i swear.. some people overestimate costs.

88-91 civic/crx = cheap

you can pick up the car for anywhere from $100-$1000, engine swaps cost half as much as the next series of cars, so even for a basic NA setup....

91 civic + B16A = 1200lb car with 160hp for $2500

oh, and btw, you can find 88-91 civic wagovans for cheap cheap cheap, so i dont see why it would cost $10,000 for the AWD system.

Newer is not always better, because with teh same amount of money or less you can build an older car to 2x the specs as the new car.

[911GT2]

Originally posted by SilverY2KCivic


I'll agree with you there. Audi and Subaru do indeed have others scrambling to catch up when it comes to ON-road AWD systems, I hear the system in the new US Lancer Evolution is supposed to have one up on the system in the WRX, but the WRX STi that's coming out later this year will have even one more up on both.

An offroad intended 4WD system wouldn't be very well suited for a street car, and the old Civic wagon AWD system seems more logical, althought wasn't that one intended for mild offroad situations kinda like the old AMC Eagle wagons of the early 80's? Eitherway, an AWD 90's generation Civic isn't something you see everyday let alone at very many car shows either.

Is the Benz 4Matic system, true AWD anyways? I haven't read up much one it. Eitherway, most of those German sport sedans almost always preform better with such amenities as traction control and ABS OFF, verses them working for you. Life in those cars isn't fun without a little controled tail sliding here and there in say like a BMW 325i sedan. I know because I've done it in special test drive runs for tire manufactures to test tires before they are released.

But as far as the STi/EVO systems go, they're getting so expensive and so close to racing standards that it'll eventually have to stop.

And they had a questionable at best Real Time 4WD Civic in Japan in the 80s, but it never worked very well and you probably couldn't get one if you tried today.

I think 4Matic is full time, but I could be wrong on that one. And while the car handles better with traction/stability control off, they'll keep you from those nasty guardrails. And ABS is always a good thing.

[911GT2]

Originally posted by 91civicDXdude
i swear.. some people overestimate costs.

88-91 civic/crx = cheap

you can pick up the car for anywhere from $100-$1000, engine swaps cost half as much as the next series of cars, so even for a basic NA setup....

91 civic + B16A = 1200lb car with 160hp for $2500

oh, and btw, you can find 88-91 civic wagovans for cheap cheap cheap, so i dont see why it would cost $10,000 for the AWD system.

Newer is not always better, because with teh same amount of money or less you can build an older car to 2x the specs as the new car.

1200 lb car, what the fuck are you smoking man?? They're light, but not near that light. 2000 easy. 1800 at a minimum.

And there's a reason why Wagovans are cheap: they suck. And they're hard to find in NA. The 10K is for the CRV system, which everyone was previously talking about.

And BTW, most of the costs aren't in the parts for a 4WD conversion, most of the cost is in custom fabrication of practically every bracket, all of which require very high accuracy.

[emerge]

im sick of seeing these kinds of posts but oh well, you know i gotta get in on the action...

first off, it's a personal interest (or as stated earlier, a hobby). i modify my car because i have a deep interest in the exterior styling and engine performance of automotive vehicles. i chose a civic because it fit my budget and i liked the car. now i have a steady income and i can spend my money on what i like, shouldn't i have that freedom? (even if it is euro lights)

and that brings me to the euro lights thing. stereotyping is just pure ignorance. lots of people get certain things for their car because they are cheap and quick to install and give their car an aftermarket look. OR MAYBE THEY JUST LIKE THEM. maybe you dont, maybe i dont, it's not our car. however, categorizing every single auto enthusiast who drives a particular car (like i said before) is just ignorant

[911GT2]

But I've always wondered: why is clear always seemingly better than the other colors??

[BLU CIVIC]

if ur refering to clear tails...well until recently...that's all there were....besides blackouts.....reaching way back in time

[branman_crx_guy]

Alright, well I got Eurotails, hell it was the first "mod" (use that term loosely) i did to my original 89 crx si, the reason? I thought they looked nice, and I like the chrome/clear tails on black look. So i bought it cuz i thought it looked better than the stock tails, and if u dont do euro's u dont have many other options besides clear which I would just get tickets for anyways. I dont see how you can put me or anyone else down for that matter simply because they've got one mod everyone else has, hell i got an aerogear battle front, blitzz sides, wings west rear/spoiler, and tsudo slr fenders in my room goin on my car in a few weeks, and in the next 6 months ill have the rear seat conversion and a B16A or B18C and I'll get more props than ur stock porche will ever get. And really thats why I'm doin it, cuz i like the attention and like hanging out with ppl who are interested in cars as much as i am....does this make me a fake car entusiast, cuz i think it just makes me an 18 yr old kid who likes to blow his $500 kmart paychecks on his car more than on drugs (which seems to be the only other option over here lol), I never had $15000 to buy a car with and if i had to make payments i wouldnt have money for anything else, so buying a $2200 crx and slowly making it better than....well....everything. :finger: , just seems like a smarter idea and a more feasible one.

[911GT2]

Originally posted by branman_crx_guy
Alright, well I got Eurotails, hell it was the first "mod" (use that term loosely) i did to my original 89 crx si, the reason? I thought they looked nice, and I like the chrome/clear tails on black look. So i bought it cuz i thought it looked better than the stock tails, and if u dont do euro's u dont have many other options besides clear which I would just get tickets for anyways. I dont see how you can put me or anyone else down for that matter simply because they've got one mod everyone else has, hell i got an aerogear battle front, blitzz sides, wings west rear/spoiler, and tsudo slr fenders in my room goin on my car in a few weeks, and in the next 6 months ill have the rear seat conversion and a B16A or B18C and I'll get more props than ur stock porche will ever get. And really thats why I'm doin it, cuz i like the attention and like hanging out with ppl who are interested in cars as much as i am....does this make me a fake car entusiast, cuz i think it just makes me an 18 yr old kid who likes to blow his $500 kmart paychecks on his car more than on drugs (which seems to be the only other option over here lol), I never had $15000 to buy a car with and if i had to make payments i wouldnt have money for anything else, so buying a $2200 crx and slowly making it better than....well....everything. :finger: , just seems like a smarter idea and a more feasible one.

No you won't.

[branman_crx_guy]

No you won't.

Yes I will.

[branman_crx_guy]

Well its been 5 hrs and no reply so....VICTORY FOR B-MAN!!!!


HOLLA HONDA HOMIES

[911GT2]

Well all you said is basically "no you're wrong" and it's pretty pointless to retort.

[branman_crx_guy]

I said that because u literally said "No, You won't" and that just seemed funny how you just typed that in there with no real rebuttle, so I thought I'd play along. Quite the interesting game we have here, actually, its not, it's childish, your just jealous cuz u cant afford a crx, you can only afford a new civic and porche.... ....sooo yeah....how did that one feel?

[911GT2]

Just because this is an internet forum doesn't mean that you shouldn't try and write half legible english.

And I'm just saying that all these body mods are shitty, especially when the money could go to performance mods that would make your car faster and perform better.

[BLU CIVIC]

Originally posted by 911GT2
And I'm just saying that all these body mods are shitty, especially when the money could go to performance mods that would make your car faster and perform better.

there are those who would like to have their cars looking good while ging fast.....body kits are the alternative.....sometimes people change their mind or feel it necessary to stand out from a crowd of thousands...and why not.....it reflects ur individuality

[branman_crx_guy]

there are those who would like to have their cars looking good while ging fast.....body kits are the alternative.....sometimes people change their mind or feel it necessary to stand out from a crowd of thousands...and why not.....it reflects ur individuality

For real, 4th gens representin, holla!! As for not liking body mods mr. 911GT2, if that is your real name, that's kinda like not liking girls whowear makeup, cuz basically wat ur saying is that you don't think people should take pride in the appearance of their car, which could quite possibly be the most rediculous thing I've ever heard, but hell wat do i know?