skylines are tight they is...

[EncryptedMinds]

Originally posted by SkylineUSA
Slight problem without any O2

Just strap a shuttle to the roof or have the astronauts from the space station help you push it really really hard.

[EncryptedMinds]

Originally posted by flylwsi
it's way more impressive than
"i can stop from 60 in 100 feet"

60-0 in 100 feet in a street car!! That sure as hell impresses me!

0-60 in magazines and 0-60 on actual streets are two different things. Most magazines I know of utilize tracks with above average grip for performance tests so there really isn't all that much relevance. Especially in California with our crappy roads and 70mph speed limits. So maybe 5-75 non-launching tests would be a more relewant test. And most performance cars that I know of are capable of exceeding 60mph in a "drag race."

[flylwsi]

60-0 in 100 feet in a street car!! That sure as hell impresses me!

that's b/c you're a well rounded enthusiast, and you would know that a ferrari 360 modena takes about 110 or so feet to stop from 60..

so yeah.. we're on the same page..

my "drag race" was simply stating a "mad dash" to the next corner.

if you can beat a car to 60, you'll beat it in the 1/4 too...

0-60 is used b/c it's easy to do.

a 5mph rolling start could never be done perfectly, and there's too many variables and ways to funk it up.

that's why a standing start is the real test.

but if you notice in some magazines, they test the rolling start as well...

[Lordrandall]

Originally posted by flylwsi

if you can beat a car to 60, you'll beat it in the 1/4 too...

I'll have to disagree with that. But 60-0 in 100 is damn impressive.

[flylwsi]

find me a car that can get beat in the 1/4 by a car it beats to 60...

(and i'm not talking about super traction limited cars that spin the shit out of their tires)
be realistic.

[RazorGTR]

flylwsi actually I have two examples where I've lost drag races to other GTR's where they passed me at 3/4 track and I smoked them big time to 60mph.

Because of the soft suspension in the car it launches extremely hard. On my daily road tyres which are total shyt I can go from 0-60 in 4.5 secs. The other two which are pushing more than 100hp more me get too much wheelspin off the line but once hooked up they are gone.

Conditions and car balance play a lot into it, but all things equal yes the car that reaches 60 quicker would win.

[Supra650RSP]

Supras typically lose the 0-60 race but do very well in the quarter.

[flylwsi]

i mentioned the stuff you noted...

if you took 2 street cars and raced them, in general, if you beat the other car to 60, you'll beat them in the 1/4 as well...

it's not 100%.... but close...

i'm sure if you have something like a modded skyline or supra with some nice power and a modded suspension, that changes things...

i'm talking about in general... and especially in cars that are designed to go fast in a straight line, you're not going to find much that you can beat in the 1/4 if you got beat to 60...

[Supra650RSP]

True Dat, but I love to play devil's advocate and throw in the curve ball to get under people's skins (could I use another analogy).

[flylwsi]

<supra650rsp.

arg.

i know that there are extreme cases, but they're the exception, not the rule...

[R34 GT-R SKYLINE]

Yeah most street cars that are faster then another car in 0-60mph should be able to beat it in the 1/4 mile. But then gearing could come into play what if you had a car that does o-60 in 4.5 but tops out at like 110 then a car with a nice medium gearing set up might win but I don't know for sure. Just a thought

[flylwsi]

what car would have that gearing?

on the street?

you'd get to 110 pretty damn quick if your 0-60 is 4.5... with that short of gearing, you'd get to 110 in under 10 seconds, so could coast the rest of the way and still have a quicker 1/4...

[RazorGTR]

Hehehe 0-110mph in 12.6 secs. Need to put the R on a diet next time before I go down to the strip. I've been running in full street trim with the spare and tools in the boost (trunk)

[flylwsi]

my point exactly...
if you're getting there that quick... it's doubtful that you'd lose the race, especially if you beat the other car to 60...

[phatdex]

In Australian MOTOr magazine I've seen quite a few cars cane to 100km/h and then lose over 1/4mile. Has a lot to do with gearing, having to change into fifth or not for the 1/4.