Texas, the nucleus of evil in america.

[kaoru-tochiro]

I am not a liar, everything I posted is well supported with evidence. Bush is burning down all the bridges that Clinton built into the 21st century. Women and ethnic equality, benefits for the workers, all of that flushed away by that grandson of a Nazi simpathizer. If you still want to ignore the problem and stick your head in the sand, be my guest.

TexasF355F1:
nice excuse blaming the illegal immigrants that your Texan bussinesmen use as slave labor.

[YogsVR4]

Originally posted by kaoru-tochiro
I am not a liar, everything I posted is well supported with evidence. Bush is burning down all the bridges that Clinton built into the 21st century. Women and ethnic equality, benefits for the workers, all of that flushed away by that grandson of a Nazi simpathizer. If you still want to ignore the problem and stick your head in the sand, be my guest.

TexasF355F1:
nice excuse blaming the illegal immigrants that your Texan bussinesmen use as slave labor.

Women and ethnic equality? Where is that comging from. Noplace. Its all in your head (apperently there is lots of room in there). Nazi simpathyzer? Now that logic is real perswasive And slave labor too. Another well reasoned thought

I refuted your evidence earlier. Please let me know when you've actually have reasonable debating points.

[TexasF355F1]

How exactly did I blame the immigrants? I'm just stating that they try to drive in a country where they don't even speak the language. And they are not our "slaves". The immigrants are the ones that look for the work they get! And without a citizenship what work are they suppose to do besides constructiong related jobs??? Since you don't live in Texas you don't know how much of a problem they are. And plenty are given citizenships each year. And GWB did more as our governor than Ann Richards and our current governor Rick Perry. And what did Clinton do that GWB tore down???

[inferno]

It is nice to see that kaoru-tochiro first cut and pasted someone else's article/statement without citing the source basically passing it off as his own and then links us to where he stole it from. Hopefully you won't do that too often in school(if you are still in school) if you value your reputation as a student and want to continue your higher education(which it seems that you are in dire need of). Another thing, as Yogs pointed out, those numbers didn't even come from Bush's term in office and several of those numbers improved while he was in office. Harris county is the first of several counties that are in the process of introducing emission laws similar to what California has for automobiles to try to clean up the air(Houston leaped past LA in terms of air quality so of course Harris county would be the first county to do it).

I understand your concern with age and mental condition of people who are convicted of committing a crime. The thing about that is that because of all of these high school killings, a lot of states have or have considered lowering the age at which a child can be tried as an adult. Most of this "kids" have known exactly what they have done and to say that they didn't is insane. While I don't agree with sentencing them to death, they do deserve life in prison. About the mental condition of some offenders, a whole lot of people have tried and some have succeeded in faking mental illness to avoid punishment, whether it be prison or the death penalty. Of course because of that, it is a lot harder to use that defense tactic with any success. A few will slip through the cracks, but then again, there are people who have been convicted of crimes who were innocent. No system is 100% perfect.

To say that the immigration issues in the south west have no effect on those numbers that you posted is foolish. If there were a way to eliminate the illegal immigrant population from those numbers, Texas' and California's rankings in those areas would shoot up. Being as you are from the New England area, you wouldn't understand or be able to witness first hand as people who live in Texas or California(and I travel back and forth between both states).

[1985_BMW318i]

kaoru-tochiro what you failed to mention is a list of things we are well known for and your puny little state isn't. Since you singled out my state I'll educate your ignorant mind.


· Although six flags have flown over Texas, there have been eight changes of government: Spanish 1519-1685, French 1685-1690, Spanish 1690-1821, Mexican 1821-1836, Republic of Texas 1836-1845, United States 1845-1861, Confederate States 1861-1865, United States 1865-present
· The King Ranch in Texas is bigger than the state of Rhode Island.
· There are 11,247 rivers and streams in Texas with a combined length of 80,000 miles.
Texas boasts a whopping 77,000 miles of highways.

Texas Best War Hero

Audie Murphy
Farmersville, Texas
Born June 20, 1924
Most decorated soldier in US history. Actor in westerns of the 1950's.


Texas Best Surgeon

Michael DeBakey
(Honorary Texan, born Lake Charles, La.
Baylor School of Medicine, One of the best known surgeons in the world. Pioneer in heart surgery.
Denton Cooley
Houston, Texas
Born 8-22-1920
Founded the Texas Heart Institute. Implanted the first artificial heart.
Texas Heart Institute, PO Box 20345, Houston, Texas 77225

MADD, Mothers Against Drunk Driving
Founded in Texas. I know a lot of mothers against drunk driving. I'm wondering who are the ones that are for drunk driving and WHY?


Origin of Name: Named from the Caddo Indian word teysha, or tejas, which means "hello friend." The Spanish used the name to refer to friendly Indian tribes in the region

Spanish explorers, including Álvar Núñez Cabeza de Vaca and Francisco Vásquez de Coronado, were the first to visit the region in the 16th and 17th centuries, settling at Ysleta near El Paso in 1682. In 1685, Robert Cavelier, Sieur de la Salle, established a short-lived French colony at Matagorda Bay.

Americans, led by Stephen F. Austin, began to settle along the Brazos River in 1821 when Texas was controlled by Mexico, recently independent from Spain. In 1836, following a brief war between the American settlers in Texas and the Mexican government, the Independent Republic of Texas was proclaimed with Sam Houston as president. This war was famous for the battles of the Alamo and San Jacinto. After Texas became the a state in 1845, border disputes led to the Mexican War of 1846–1848.

Possessing enormous natural resources, Texas is a major agricultural state and an industrial giant. Second only to Alaska in land area, it leads all other states in such categories as oil, cattle, sheep, and cotton. Texas ranches and farms also produce poultry and eggs, dairy products, greenhouse and nursery products, wheat, hay, rice, sugar cane, and peanuts, and a variety of fruits and vegetables.

Sulfur, salt, helium, asphalt, graphite, bromine, natural gas, cement, and clays are among the state's valuable resources. Chemicals, oil refining, food processing, machinery, and transportation equipment are among the major Texas manufacturing industries.

Millions of tourists spend well over $20.6 billion annually visiting more than 100 state parks, recreation areas, and points of interest such as the Gulf Coast resort area, the Lyndon B. Johnson Space Center in Houston, the Alamo in San Antonio, the state capital in Austin, and the Big Bend and Guadalupe Mountains National Park.


Famous natives and residents:
Alvin Ailey choreographer;
Mary Kay Ash cosmetics entrepreneur;
Stephen Fuller Austin founding father of Texas;
Gene Autry singer and actor;
Carol Burnett comedienne;
George W. Bush president and governor;
Cyd Charisse actress and dancer;
Denton A. Cooley heart surgeon;
Joan Crawford actress;
Dwight David Eisenhower president and general;
A. J. Foyt auto racer;
Ben Hogan golfer;
Sam Houston general and statesman;
Howard Hughes industrialist and film producer;
Jack Johnson boxer;
Lyndon B. Johnson president;
George Jones singer;
Tommy Lee Jones actor;
Janis Joplin singer;
Scott Joplin composer;
Trini Lopez singer;
Mary Martin singer and actress;
Spanky McFarland actor;
Audie Murphy actor and war hero;
Chester Nimitz admiral;
Sandra Day O'Connor jurist;
Buck Owens singer;
Selena Pérez singer;
Lou Diamond Phillips actor;
Katherine Anne Porter novelist;
Wiley Post aviator;
Dan Rather TV newscaster;
Robert Rauschenberg painter;
Tex Ritter singer;
Rip Torn actor and director;
Tommy Tune dancer and choreographer;
Stevie Ray Vaughan guitarist and singer;
Lupe Velez actress;
Dooley Wilson actor and musician;
Babe Didrikson Zaharias athlete and golfer

Texas is popularly known as The Lone Star State.

The Alamo is located in San Antonio. It is where Texas defenders fell to Mexican General Santa Anna and the phrase Remember the Alamo originated. The Alamo is considered the cradle of Texas liberty and the state's most popular historic site.

The lightning whelk is the official state shell.

Texas is the only state to have the flags of 6 different nations fly over it. They are: Spain, France, Mexico, Republic of Texas, Confederate States, and the United States.

Although six flags have flown over Texas, there have been eight changes of government: Spanish 1519-1685, French 1685-1690, Spanish 1690-1821, Mexican 1821-1836, Republic of Texas 1836-1845, United States 1845-1861, Confederate States 1861-1865, United States 1865-present

During the period of July 24-26, 1979, the Tropical Storm Claudette brought 45 inches of rain to an area near Alvin, Texas, contributing to more than $600 million in damages. Claudette produced the United States 24 hour rainfall record of 43 inches.

More wool comes from the state of Texas than any other state in the United States.

Edwards Plateau in west central Texas is the top sheep growing area in the country.

Texas is the only state to enter the United States by treaty instead of territorial annexation.

The state was an independent nation from 1836 to 1845.

Texas boasts the nation's largest herd of whitetail deer.

A coastal live oak located near Fulton is the oldest tree in the state. The tree has an estimated age of more than 1,500 years.

Sam Houston, arguably the most famous Texan, was actually born in Virginia. Houston served as governor of Tennessee before coming to Texas.

Caddo Lake is the only natural lake in the state.

When Texas was annexed in 1845 it retained the right to fly its flag at the same height as the national flag.

The first offensive action of the Texas Revolution occurred in Goliad on October 9, 1835 when local colonists captured the fort and town.

On December 20, 1835 the first Declaration of Texas Independence was signed in Goliad and the first flag of Texas Independence was hoisted.

The Hertzberg Circus Museum in San Antonio contains one of the largest assortments of circusana in the world.

The capital city of Austin is located on the Colorado River in south-central Texas. The capitol building is made from Texas pink granite. It served as the capital of the Republic of Texas in 1840-1842.

Austin is considered the live music capital of the world.

Texas is home to Dell and Compaq computers and central Texas is often referred to as the Silicon Valley of the south.

Professional sports teams include the Dallas Cowboys, Dallas Mavericks, Dallas Stars, Houston Astros, Houston Comets, Houston Rockets, San Antonio Spurs, and Texas Rangers.

Dr Pepper was invented in Waco in 1885. The Dublin Dr Pepper, 85 miles west of Waco, still uses pure imperial cane sugar in its product. There is no period after the Dr in Dr Pepper.

The first suspension bridge in the United States was the Waco Bridge. Built in 1870 and still in use today as a pedestrian crossing of the Brazos River.

In 1836 five sites served as temporary capitals of Texas: Washington-on-the-Brazos: Harrisburg: Galveston: Velasco: and Columbia. Sam Houston moved the capital to Houston in 1837. In 1839 the capital was moved to the new town of Austin.

The capitol in Austin opened May 16, 1888. The dome of the building stands seven feet higher than that of the nation's Capitol in Washington, D.C.

Texas comes from the Hasinai Indian word tejas meaning friends or allies.

The armadillo is the official state mammal.

Texas has the first domed stadium in the country. The structure was built in Houston and opened in April 1965.

The Houston Comets are the only team in the country to win four back-to-back WNBA championships. 1997-2000 Cynthia Cooper remains the only player to win the WNBA Championship MVP.

The worst natural disaster in United States history was caused by a hurricane that hit Galveston in 1900. Over 8000 deaths were recorded.

The first word spoken from the moon on July 20, 1969 was Houston.

Texas' largest county is Brewster with 6,208 square miles.

Texas possesses three of the top ten most populous cities in the United States. These towns are Houston, Dallas, and San Antonio.

El Paso is closer to Needles, California than it is to Dallas.

Texas includes 267,339 square miles, or 7.4% of the nation's total area.

The state's cattle population is estimated to be near 16 million.

More land is farmed in Texas than in any other state.

More species of bats live in Texas than in any other part of the United States.

Laredo is the world's largest inland port.

Port Lavaca has the world's longest fishing pier. Originally part of the causeway connecting the two sides of Lavaca Bay, the center span of was destroyed by Hurricane Carla in 1961.

The Tyler Municipal Rose Garden is the world's largest rose garden. It contains 38,000 rose bushes representing 500 varieties of roses set in a 22-acre garden.

Amarillo has the world's largest helium well.

The world's first rodeo was held in Pecos on July 4, 1883.

The Flagship Hotel on Seawall Boulevard in Galveston is the only hotel in North America built entirely over the water.

The Heisman trophy is named for John William Heisman the first full-time coach and athletic director at Rice University in Houston.

Brazoria County has more species of birds than any other comparable area in North America.

The Aransas Wildlife Refuge is the winter home of North America's only remaining flock of whooping cranes.

Jalapeno pepper jelly originated in Lake Jackson and was first marketed in 1978.

[TexasF355F1]

Nice post 1985_BMW, you brought back some of what I learned in my Texas History class last year.
You forgot that George Strait and Clay Walker(huge country music stars for those who don't know) are from Texas and both own huge farms.

Professional sports teams include the Dallas Cowboys, Dallas Mavericks, Dallas Stars, Houston Astros, Houston Comets, Houston Rockets, San Antonio Spurs, and Texas Rangers.

You forgot the Houston Texans.

The Houston Comets are the only team in the country to win four back-to-back WNBA championships. 1997-2000 Cynthia Cooper remains the only player to win the WNBA Championship MVP

LOL, not a big accomplishment since the WNBA is a waste of space and money in our society.

[Zippy]

Originally posted by kaoru-tochiro
What George W. and His Big Money
Friends Have Done to Texas
Some facts about Texas:
1. Texas executes more prisoners than any other jurisdiction in the Western World.3 Most of those executed are indigents too poor to hire their own attorneys, or they are mentally retarded or mentally ill. In some cases, Texas has executed young prisoners who were 17 when they committed the crime that led to their imprisonment. In response to the Columbine shootings, one Texas legislator wanted to lower the death penalty in Texas to age 11.4 It was probably the image of a small child being strapped to a prison gurney as the state pumped poison into a little arm that led other legislators to stop that effort. But George W. publicly supports assembly line executions now taking place in Texas.

2. Amnesty International issued a report this year [1999] citing Texas' clemency process for "violat[ing] minimum safeguards for human rights."5 Along with countries like China, Iraq and Iran, Texas ranks low in terms of according prisoners minimal human rights.

3. Texas ranks exactly 51st out of 51 states in the quality of criminal defense provided for accused defendants too poor to hire their own attorneys. "In recent years the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals has upheld death sentences in at least three cases in which the defense lawyers slept during trial."6 Yet George W. vetoed a bill that would have modestly improved the disgraceful quality of legal representation available to poor defendants in Texas.7

4. Both the civil and criminal parts of the Texas system of justice are an acknowledged public mockery of American justice. Texas justice is a system in which large corporations can be legally "forgiven" for causing the death of workers, while 9-year old little girls are essentially held responsible for their own gang-rapes.8

5. Texas ranks 48th out of 51 states in terms of conditions best for bringing up children. Texas is 3 states away from being the absolute worst state in the United States for bringing up children.9 In spite of billions of dollars of a huge budget surplus, Texas can't seem to find the spare change to provide decent conditions for children to thrive. Of course, internationally, the entire United States doesn't rank very high in terms of its treatment of children. But Texas ranks near the bottom of the barrel of the bottom of the barrel on recognized measures of child welfare: rates of child abuse and neglect; immunizations under age 2; high school dropouts; child poverty; child deaths; infant mortality; mothers not receiving prenatal care in the first three months of pregnancy; juvenile arrests; teen births and divorce. Texas ranks near the bottom of the barrel in virtually every one of these categories.

6. In one year alone, 1998, the number of children who died of abuse and neglect in Texas increased by 71 percent.10 Deaths of children in Texas from abuse and neglect have increased every single year since George W. became governor.

7. Texas is 2nd in the United States in the number of medically uninsured children (1.5 million uninsured).11 Yet George W. established eligibility to the federal/state Children's Health Insurance Program at 150% of the federal poverty level, dropping or leaving more poor children in Texas out of the insurance program.

8. Texas has the largest volume of air pollution in the United States.12 Yet George W. supported a voluntary emissions program for grandfathered industrial plants that have been exempt from pollution control since the Texas Clean Air Act was passed in 1971.13 Those exempted industrial plants in Texas are among the worst industrial polluters in the entire United States.

9. Texas ranks 50th in per capita spending.14 It had a $1.7 billion surplus in 1997 and had a $6.7 billion surplus in 1999 under George W. Yet George W. did not use these surplus billions to fund underfunded programs, such as those to prevent the 71% increase in deaths of children from abuse and neglect. They were used primarily to benefit Big Money.15

10. After the Littleton, Colorado massacre of high school students, the only gun-related bill passed by the Texas Legislature was a bill protecting gun manufacturers from lawsuits filed by cities. George W. signed that bill into law.16

11. Texas ranks eighth from the bottom among the fifty states in the number of jobless citizens who get unemployment benefits.17 Only 22 percent of jobless Texans receive unemployment benefits, compared to a national average of 35 percent.

12. Texas ranks sixth from the bottom among states in the number of residents who earn family incomes below the federal poverty level.18

13. Texas ranks 47th in the percentage of workers in unions.19

14. Texas ranks 47th in the amount of welfare for a family of three, barely at subsistence level.20

15. Texas ranks 47th in per-capita state funding for public health, while approximately 25% of its babies go without immunizations.21

16. And Texas ranks 50th in poor working parents without health insurance and 50th (as noted above) in the percentage of children with no health insurance.22

17. Finally, Texas ranks 48th in spending for parks and recreation.23

In every single major category of quality of life and protections for the health and well-being of families, especially children and the poor, Texas consistently ranks at or near the bottom of the barrel. George W.'s legacy as governor of Texas is one of compassionate cruelty, not compassionate conservatism.

You have no life. I suggest you find one, and do it soon.

[taranaki]

Originally posted by kaoru-tochiro
I am not a liar, everything I posted is well supported with evidence. Bush is burning down all the bridges that Clinton built into the 21st century. Women and ethnic equality, benefits for the workers, all of that flushed away by that grandson of a Nazi simpathizer. If you still want to ignore the problem and stick your head in the sand, be my guest.

TexasF355F1:
nice excuse blaming the illegal immigrants that your Texan bussinesmen use as slave labor.

I am well known to the regular users of this board for not supporting Mr Bush's foreign policy.That said,I'd like to disassociate myself from this nonsensical and capricious thread.Please send me a bucket of sand to stick my head in,at least then Iwouldn't see this ........'stuff'.

[Sean]

Originally posted by NSX-R-SSJ20K
watch what you say

saying that Texas is the nucleus of evil in america is stupid i used to live there

there are plenty of people on these forums who are from texas

And just cuz george Bush is from Texas gives you no right to use an offensive title such as that

I'm not going to bother reading what you posted

The title is stupid

obviously you're ignorant enough to form a strong opinion about a topic you havn't even read.

Originally posted by 1985_BMW318i
· The King Ranch in Texas is bigger than the state of Rhode Island.
· There are 11,247 rivers and streams in Texas with a combined length of 80,000 miles.
-Texas boasts a whopping 77,000 miles of highways.

what does geographical might have to do with being evil or not?

[1985_BMW318i]

what does geographical might have to do with being evil or not?

He's claiming that our state is the center of evil in the US. I'm simply stating facts that are well documented and not the ravings of a lunitic mind.

[kaoru-tochiro]

Obviously the only evidence all of you ever would believe is if GW Bush actually went on the air and confessed.

After 9/11 I was ready to join the army to settle the score, but I wasn't old enough.
Now I changed my mind because the more I read the more disgusted I am with my country. Obviously I'm not as stupid as you all think, young and naive, maybe, but now I see the ugly hidden truth.

[TexasF355F1]

Originally posted by kaoru-tochiro
Obviously the only evidence all of you ever would believe is if GW Bush actually went on the air and confessed.

Confess what exactly?

[inferno]

Originally posted by kaoru-tochiro
Obviously the only evidence all of you ever would believe is if GW Bush actually went on the air and confessed.

After 9/11 I was ready to join the army to settle the score, but I wasn't old enough.
Now I changed my mind because the more I read the more disgusted I am with my country. Obviously I'm not as stupid as you all think, young and naive, maybe, but now I see the ugly hidden truth.

This post pretty much sums up everything that you have ever said. Now I feel bad for making fun of a child who has not developed enough mentally to understand what he is speaking about. Kinda like executing someone who is mentally retarded.

[1985_BMW318i]

Obviously the only evidence all of you ever would believe is if GW Bush actually went on the air and confessed

Confessed what? I suppose you were there and witnessed all of this?

After 9/11 I was ready to join the army to settle the score, but I wasn't old enough

Explains your mentality lack of compassion as well as ignorance since you have barely lived long enough to experience anything.

Now I changed my mind because the more I read the more disgusted I am with my country.

Please feel free to leave asap!

Obviously I'm not as stupid as you all think

Yes you are!

young and naive, maybe

That to!

but now I see the ugly hidden truth

Looked in the mirror did you?

[kaoru-tochiro]

In conclusion I would like to point out how closed minded people are at AF. Don’t you think its time to start thinking outside the box? You’re all so quick to label someone as stupid or dumb, but look at the conversations that go on in here like why a Z06 is faster than a Modena, (hmm very stimulating indeed, obviously there is a lot of brain matter floating at AF). My college professors say that people that are immersed in "car culture" are not very intelligent, now I strongly agree with them.