Pro Black-washing????

[hirofkd]

Usually, you have to use two different kinds of paint for washing.
The body color shouldn't be affected by the solution of the washing paint.
Enamel on lacquer based acrylic works.
Water based acrylic on enamel works, too.
And water based acrylic on lacquer based acrylic also works.

You can't really do washing if you only have one kind, even though completely dried paint isn't supposed to be dissolved so easily.

I'd recommend to buy a fine pen at some of those art supply stores.

Also, you can drop excessively thinned black at corners, and let the capillary action flow the black paint along the grooves. You can obtain even finer lines by doing this.

[fullbloodchop01]

lol thisi isnt for the car body, im trying to black wash a tranny and engine block

[flyonthewall]

Originally posted by fullbloodchop01
ive been trying to do some black washing ut it doesnt seems to be working weel, im using testors bottle paint because thats all i have right now, im using some black testors acrylc paint thinned w/ water and it just seem to beed up on the part i want to black wash???? WTF can some one help me please

The problem is surface tension, water is not the proper thinner to use with acrylics although it does certainly thin the paint. In the future get hold of the appropriate thinner, in the mean time use some dishwashing detergent in your watered down paint. You only need a tiny spec, so just dab the end of a cocktail stick into the detergent then dab into the thinned paint, that's it!

[fullbloodchop01]

Originally posted by flyonthewall


The problem is surface tension, water is not the proper thinner to use with acrylics although it does certainly thin the paint. In the future get hold of the appropriate thinner, in the mean time use some dishwashing detergent in your watered down paint. You only need a tiny spec, so just dab the end of a cocktail stick into the detergent then dab into the thinned paint, that's it!

thanks FOTW but what is the best thinner? do you think that alcohol will work better than water? also i want to know what i should thin my paint in so i can use the right amount of detergent, and by the way what does the detergent do any ways?

[Mr Mario]

Originally posted by hirofkd
Usually, you have to use two different kinds of paint for washing.
The body color shouldn't be affected by the solution of the washing paint.
Enamel on lacquer based acrylic works.
Water based acrylic on enamel works, too.
And water based acrylic on lacquer based acrylic also works.

That's good but what do you do.... when your main body is acrylic?
I like using Tamiya acrylics with the air brush I have some trouble doing panel lines when the paint is thinned down using Isopropyl alcohol.
The paint dries way too fast and if I screw up it pisses me off!

Help if you can't oh well

[Vric]

UI will order some Gundam marker ! but for now, I use some Acrylic Black with Water... easy to wash and make a nice job......

[flyonthewall]

Originally posted by fullbloodchop01

thanks FOTW but what is the best thinner? do you think that alcohol will work better than water? also i want to know what i should thin my paint in so i can use the right amount of detergent, and by the way what does the detergent do any ways?

Best thinner for acrylic paint???...erm...err... Acrylic paint thinner!!!:finger:

As i say, you only need the tinniest spec of detergent so use the cocktail stick. The detergent breaks the the surface tension - haven't u ever seen that thing with the matchstick? Nevermind! Use things like can lids, bottle top or artist palettes for mixing your paint.

[fullbloodchop01]

Originally posted by flyonthewall


Best thinner for acrylic paint???...erm...err... Acrylic paint thinner!!!:finger:

As i say, you only need the tinniest spec of detergent so use the cocktail stick. The detergent breaks the the surface tension - haven't u ever seen that thing with the matchstick? Nevermind! Use things like can lids, bottle top or artist palettes for mixing your paint.

im a little slow today:frog:
and what about the alcohol??? i dont have any ACYLIC PAINT THINNER on hand right now

[hirofkd]

Originally posted by Mr Mario


That's good but what do you do.... when your main body is acrylic?
I like using Tamiya acrylics with the air brush I have some trouble doing panel lines when the paint is thinned down using Isopropyl alcohol.
The paint dries way too fast and if I screw up it pisses me off!

Help if you can't oh well

I avoid using water based paint for the body, but if I don't have any choice, (like when I was in the U.S., and couldn't get Mr. Color so easily,) I use micron pigma .005, Rotling drawing pen, or even 0.3mm mechanical pencil.

[flyonthewall]

Originally posted by fullbloodchop01

what about the alcohol???

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I dont know about using it as a thinner, drink some and see what happens

Just carry on and use the water for what your doing, i was just pointing out that there is a proper thinner. I do use water to thin acrylics when doing panel lines and sometime with washes as its not going to attack the underlying paint so much. Use the detergent and also experiment with larger ratios of water to paint.

[daggerlee]

Isopropyl alcohol = rubbing alcohol, go to your local drugstore and ask them for it, if they don't have it I'll buy you a new kit

Mr. Mario, then maybe you should try clearcoating with a lacquer like Tamiya TS-13. Just be careful to lightly mist your first 4-5 coats on to build a barrier for the wet coats.

[Mr Mario]

Originally posted by daggerlee
Mr. Mario, then maybe you should try clearcoating with a lacquer like Tamiya TS-13. Just be careful to lightly mist your first 4-5 coats on to build a barrier for the wet coats.

Hey I never thought of that!!!
Have you ever tried it? If so how long do you let the body cure for (using tamiya acrylics) before you apply the lacquer clear coat? I never tried it!

Man you a smart guy!!:sun:

[fullbloodchop01]

ok thank guys i think i have a pretty goood solution goin but, the main question now is how do i apply the stuff??? do i just brush it onto the part and wait for it to dry????

[flyonthewall]

http://www.briansmodelcars.com/tutorials/pdf/7.pdf

[fullbloodchop01]

thats a good tutorial but what im talkin about is on small parts, like engines ans other little pieces like that