Pro Black-washing????

[fullbloodchop01]

:alien2: ive done a search end all, but i want to know what you pros out there use for your black washing???:alien2:

[freakray]

On white or light colored cars, I use Tamiya X-66 grey diluted in Tamiya thinners to create a wash, on dark colored cars, I use Tamiya X-18 Satin Black diluted in Tamiya thinnersro create the wash.
If you go to www.tamiya.com and look on the English site, they have a tips section at the bottow left of the screen which explains how to black-wash a car/model.

Ray

[Lownslow]

i use something called the Detailer its a premixed water based wash available in a ton of colors i use it for panel lines, grill detail, and interior detail.

[fullbloodchop01]

Lownslow,
where can i find this detailer stuff???

[freakray]

Fullblood,
www.micromark.com has the detailer weathering and detailing washes.
You should look there.

Ray

[fullbloodchop01]

Ray
Thanks for the link , but is there anyway that i can just get the BLACK black-wash instead of buying the whole kit

[hiver77]

Maybe it's already obvious, but it should be pointed out that usually an enamel paint is used for the black (or grey) wash on top of a lacquer base color (or lacquer clear coat on top of enamel / acrylic base color).
The reason being enamel thinner (used in the "wash" part) doesn't disturb the lacquer coat.

Acrylic doesn't work well for washing (at least for me) as it's too runny.

[freakray]

Actually, I prefer to use acryllics to create a wash, their thinners for acryllics are nowhere near as hot as enamel thinners when you are washing over lacquers.

Fullblood, I don't know how you will get them separate, why don't you just make your own wash with acryllics?

Ray

[fullbloodchop01]

thats what im thinking of doing ray. right now all i have is testors acrilycs, will these do and can i use just ordinary water to thin acrylics for blackwashing?

[daggerlee]

thats what im thinking of doing ray. right now all i have is testors acrilycs, will these do and can i use just ordinary water to thin acrylics for blackwashing?

Well, you won't know until you try. Isopropyl alcohol would be better than water.

Also, some enamel thinners contain lacquer thinners as well. I found out that the hardway using some Model Masters Airbrush Thinner on Tamiya lacquers.

[935k3]

India Drawing Ink can also be used as a wash, it is permanent but it can be rinsed off withwater if done right away if you do not like it. Enamels probably flow a little better than acrylics but mistakes ar easier to clean up with the acrylics.

[hiver77]

Originally posted by 935k3
India Drawing Ink can also be used as a wash, it is permanent but it can be rinsed off withwater if done right away if you do not like it. Enamels probably flow a little better than acrylics but mistakes ar easier to clean up with the acrylics.

Oh well, different people different experiences different preferences

I use Tamiya spray lacquer and then wash / panel line detail with testor enamel. Cleaning up the enamel or wiping of mistakes is as easy as wetting a microbrush with testor brush cleaner (not thinner) and start wiping.

Then again, I'm thinking about switching to enamel spray in some cases for my body color so I might have to use acrylic for washing.

[flyonthewall]

Satin/Falt black - Enamel or Acrylic, heavily thinned.

Citadel Black ink

Tamiya XF69 Nato Black is quite useful for some car colours.
XF63 German Grey

[hermanchauw]

For detail parts that u want it to dry really fast, try using smoke acrylic. I use Gunze Sangyo Smoke Gray + a little bit of blue water based pen ink (Pilot G1 blue) for washing engine parts and other small details.

[fullbloodchop01]

ive been trying to do some black washing ut it doesnt seems to be working weel, im using testors bottle paint because thats all i have right now, im using some black testors acrylc paint thinned w/ water and it just seem to beed up on the part i want to black wash???? WTF can some one help me please