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Old 11-17-2002, 07:03 PM
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sorry i did mean MR honest...
i do know that the car is mid engined like F1 cars... cant i make a mistake?!?
well anyway, just tried out the left foot braking....yes it did slow me down..(obviously coz i'm braking duh!) but the amazing thing was that my backend did slide out. To be honest it just felt like i pulled up the handbrake, except i didn't...
it wasn't really like....WOW! but still its still an achievement and gonna pratice it....mix it with my toe heel...
and hopefully get enuff practice before i go onto the real cars! haha
then i'll be drifting around in them, get caught by the cops.
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or actually i might be inclined to get a nissan 200sx
i like those!
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You mean 240SX? Cuz I think the 200SX is just a Sentra.
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Quote:
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BTW - where've you been man - long time no see

To many little kids thinking thier SOHC USDM Civics are the hottest shit out there.

Anyway, the frount and rear suspension is differnt on the SiR, the rear arms are located in a sligthly differnt spot, and the top arm is longer or something. And of course the brakes at all 4 corners are bigger.




And for all the little USDM Civic owners it is VERY easy to drift an EF9.
As I said before they are extremly well balanced, and on the right corner lifting off the throttle will often step the back end out, otherwise they also run a lot of rear brake bias, and its easy to get the back to step out braking late into a corner.


And a MK1 MR2 has to be one of the most fun cars to drift.
But they will bite you hard if you push to far.
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WHY use the nadbrake. i can slide my rear end out using no brakes at all. but yes mine does slide out using the E-brake. hmmm is that bad that i can do that and no one else can. or is that good? i dunno oh well. i just go like 60, turn really hard at the last minute, the the tail starts sliding out so i countersteer and ride it out. hmmm. i dunno
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You mean 240SX? Cuz I think the 200SX is just a Sentra.
Maybe in the States, but in the rest of the world, the 200SX is a Nissan S14 or S15 Silvia powered with a SR20DET.

Similarly, your 240SX is a 180SX, again powered by a SR20DET turbo. At least, I'm guessing this is the case
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hmmm...
e-brake = footbrake?? i'm confused....
anyway, i am still finding it difficult for the rear end to come out.

i'm not sure if my car has the same setup as the USDM civics...
one things for sure, i don't think its good, but i have to stick with it coz i cant afford anything faster because of the damn insurance costs.

Moppie, so if i take a corner and lift my foot off the throttle, the back end comes out?!

I dunno....
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Moppie is talking about the EF9 SiR hatch, not the handling on the other varients of the 4th gen. Your car would have similar dynamics to the USDM cars, but not to the SiR which was re-engineered firewall forwards and also in the rear geometry and carries considerably more weight.
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Maybe in the States, but in the rest of the world, the 200SX is a Nissan S14 or S15 Silvia powered with a SR20DET.

Similarly, your 240SX is a 180SX, again powered by a SR20DET turbo. At least, I'm guessing this is the case
Actually, in the states the 200SX was essentially just a sentra. Kinda like the old version of the new Sentra SE-R(the fast model of 200sx used to be the SE-R).

The 200SX was an upgraded version of the sentra with a slightly different body and I believe in the SE-R, upgraded handling and such. They were powered by the SR20DE, the non-turbo version

As for the S13's and S14's and 180's(the S15 was never available state-side in any form) they are all called 240SX's. The most common form of S13 is the 180SX, but there are S13 coupes in the states, just not many. The S14's(both the a's and b's) were sold here identical to the JDM versions(I think) with the one obvious exception of the engine offered in them.

Thats the problem with the silvia's in North America, they were all powered by the same engine. The KA24DE, which if I'm not mistaken is an engine Nissan used for it's pick-up trucks in Japan.
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Who cares about the 'States, it's well known you get inferior, second-rate imports :finger: :finger: :finger:

180SX is not a Silvia S13 although it shares the same chassis etc, the body types are very different. S13 = 2 door coupe, 180SX = 3 door hatch. Sileighty = 180SX with S13 nosecone, Onevia = S13 with 180SX nosecone (JDM markets - low volume Aussie Imports). 200SX = S14 and S15 (Aussie/JDM markets). As I pointed out earlier, I'm talking about the real world here, not the U.S.A.

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Actually, in the states the 200SX was essentially just a sentra. Kinda like the old version of the new Sentra SE-R(the fast model of 200sx used to be the SE-R).

The 200SX was an upgraded version of the sentra with a slightly different body and I believe in the SE-R, upgraded handling and such. They were powered by the SR20DE, the non-turbo version

As for the S13's and S14's and 180's(the S15 was never available state-side in any form) they are all called 240SX's. The most common form of S13 is the 180SX, but there are S13 coupes in the states, just not many. The S14's(both the a's and b's) were sold here identical to the JDM versions(I think) with the one obvious exception of the engine offered in them.

Thats the problem with the silvia's in North America, they were all powered by the same engine. The KA24DE, which if I'm not mistaken is an engine Nissan used for it's pick-up trucks in Japan.
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More roll stiffness at the rear will cause more oversteer. This can be accomplishe by adding more inti-roll bar (saw bar) or higher spring rates.

Ya gotta be careful however or you'll get into a car that's too twitchy. Go at it gradually.

If Habib is still around he seems to have a reasonable setup on his car.

Left foot braking can also induce a bit more tail out attitude.....especially on dirt.
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That's "sway" bar. Sorry.
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