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#16
01-01-2001, 09:24 PM
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lol, that was good mr2turb!!
but i like the challenge of having a regular everyday grocery getter and making it faster, handle better and look better anybody can go pick up a GT and soup it up as it is a sports car made for performance right out of the factory. and mr2turbo was right there are tons of them everywhere driven my high school girls mainly in my town and GTs are rare they all drive v6's that are 3.8L gas guzzlers that i can take out stock in my accord v6 stock and the mustangs are super cheap in constructon and materials, even the air scoops are fake even in the GT's which is just pathetic, and there to attract the young high school girl buyers to a "cute" car. and tell me what kind of gas mileage do you get in that 9 second beast of yours civics being a 4 cyl and with all those mods still get better gas mileage if u dont like the import scene just turn around and forget about it. u dont have to bitch about it like a lil girl to us so that we'll change our minds about it ---------- 00 Honda Accord coupe EX V6 SS aem cai, WW 3-piece midwing, clears |
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#17
01-01-2001, 10:05 PM
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yep, id have to say that the #1 reason im an import guy--exclusivity. on any given drive to/from work i cant even count the number of mustangs/camaros/firebirds i see with prob about a 60/40 split on v8 vs v6 versions and most driven by "highschool aged kids". to me its not a sports car if you see 50 just like it on a daily basis. i respect the LT1/LS1 cars and newer gt/cobras as race cars just because they can be made fast but not as true sports cars because there are just too many. how often do you see a vr4 or mr2 (turbo or non) or a supra turbo or a 3rd gen rx7 or 300zx turbo or an nsx? almost never. thats why they attract so much attention. i dont know how many people have come up to me and asked if my mr2 was some kind of ferrari or lotus--cuz you dont see em everyday!!(see for yourself under the "mr2" category of the toyota group in this forum). speed is a whole other issue. just like every other car on the planet, all of the above cars can be made to run incredibly fast but thats not the point. its all about the persona they have. and not to mention its the only way to get that without shelling out over $70k on a viper or ferrari or lambo or true exotic car. and when comparing any of the above mentioned "ricers" to the mustang/camaro/firebird trio stock vs stock its embarrassing. not even in the same ballpark. motor trend got the 97 mustang gt to run the 1/4 in 15.1 @ 92.8 mph!! now thats impressive!! just goes to show you can make anything fast if you spend enough money. hell, guys already have the new celicas running low 14s with n/a "4 bangers". and my laser with its mighty 2.0 ran a best of 12.8 @ 107.2 this year. more than enough to beat 99% of domestic "sports car" owners out there. oh, and while were on the topic, does someone that hates all "4-banger ricers" consider a plymouth laser a ricer? and if so is the prowler too? just curious.
jeff ---------- 95 vr4 93 mr2 turbo 91 laser turbo |
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#18
01-01-2001, 10:53 PM
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I normally dont comment a whole lot on ricer topics considering my own personal ideas about that whole deal...But mr2turb, that whole thing about exclusitivity on your last post, I personally gagged. I totally understood what you meant about the 3000GT, NSX deal...Our 3s's are exclusive, but when he means ricers, he means the civics and accords and integras, not the already nice cars. I see at least 10-20 of those kind of 'ricers' everyday, with at least the clear light kits, wings, exhaust, etc. Ive only seen 1 Camaro SS, 2 Firebird WS6 or whatever theyre number is (I always forget), and 1 Mustang Cobra. Now, I do see some more regular american type muscle cars, but rarely do I see one of the base models of them 'riced' out. Well, I better stop or Ill keep going, lol
---------- Mike 1991 Black Dodge Stealth R/T TT |
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#19
01-02-2001, 06:16 AM
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well, he did say "any" jap 4-banger--and if his views apply to 4 cylinder cars whats the difference with sixes? i agree (as i said earlier) about the term "ricer" applying to civics or integras with 50 stickers and a huge tip and 18" wheels and the owner thinking its the fastest thing on the road. did i mention such cars as being exclusive? civics are like the #1 selling car in the country for crying out loud!! not to mention the large number or accords, camrys, corollas, yada yada. i said import guy in the performance sense not the "every car the comapanies make sense". im sure there arent too many die hard mustang guys running around trying to support the taurus, tempo, and windstar!! my comparison was strictly the cars i mentioned (3000gt, supra, 300zx, rx7, mr2, and nsx) vs the mustang/firebird/camaro trio. i dont see how there is an arguement there. sales numbers dont lie boys. even import guys use the term "rice" to describe certain cars but not EVERY jap 4/6 cylinder!! hes basing his opinion on country of origin not each car on an individual basis. and as for the ws6 (ram-air) and ss camaro--youre looking for the top model in each cars lineup. ill be the first to say i love the ws6's front end and the LS1 in both cars, but around here i see just as many ss cars as i do z28s. and for the power diff vs price diff thats what id buy if i was a chevy fan. ok, hope i cleared that up. dont want this to continue on about which you see more often the maxima or the lumina. WHO CARES!!!!!!!
jeff ---------- 95 vr4 93 mr2 turbo 91 laser turbo |
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#20
01-02-2001, 06:52 AM
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oh, and what term then applies to the hundreds of 6 cylinder stangs running around with saleen stickers and wings and ground effects on them? or did saleen start building "performance versions" all of the sudden. PLEASE!!!! its 100% about the owner not the car or where it was built.
jeff ---------- 95 vr4 93 mr2 turbo 91 laser turbo |
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#22
01-02-2001, 03:13 PM
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Yes, I do run slicks at the track, but I don't use spray...I have a Blower pushing 14lbs of boost,and a 12 point roll cage,as for gas mileage...around 15-18 MPG. And i have run the car on just motor (4.6L 281 cid DOHC) and it hit a 10.60 @ ? (can't remember the trap)
---------- For my Message Board Click Here |
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#23
01-02-2001, 03:17 PM
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I get disgusted when I see "fake saleens" as when I see a riced out Civic with fony "Type R" Badges
---------- For my Message Board Click Here |
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#26
01-03-2001, 06:48 PM
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If you want to race, bring it to Brandenton, Fl at the DeSoto Memorial Dragstrip.
I'll give you a set of slicks or we can run em in stock trim...don't matter to me. Sometime this Spring. ---------- For my Message Board Click Here |
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#27
01-05-2001, 06:03 AM
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ive got a few questions. i just picked up a 92 prelude Si with the 2.3 litre non vtec. ibasiclly got to build into a 1/4 mile car/street car. my questions are will the 2.2vtec head off a a late 90's prelude fit and run on the 2.3? ive heard they do. is there anyone on this forum that has done this please let me know how it does. question 2 What is a good turbo kit that will work on these motor? im lookin to run about 18 to 20 psi+nitrous!! and my final question is will the type SH transmissions off the late 90's preludes bolt up to the 2.3 litre engines? if any of you guys have any info it would be much appreciated
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#28
01-05-2001, 06:03 PM
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if ur gonna build it into a racer i would go with a whole new engine like the h22a since there is unlimited aftermarket support for it
---------- 00 Honda Accord coupe EX V6 SS aem cai, WW 3-piece midwing, clears |
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#29
01-07-2001, 04:24 PM
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I would go with VTEC V6's suggestion, which is to try and get yourself an H22A. Doesn't even need to be new, a used one should be fine (like a wreck salvo or something). And with this engine, I would go with an F Max turbo (I know more about superchargers than turbos, but I have heard that Rev Hard turbos are the choice turbos for all B series engines, and F Max for F and H series engines).
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#30
01-07-2001, 05:39 PM
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thanks for the info.
the big thing here in kc area from what ive seen has been to build those 1.8 and 1.5 litre motors. my buddy has a 1.5 litre honda civic hatchback, nothing fancy body wise, it will just run a high a high 12 in the quarter. will the h22a v6 fit in the early 90's lude's. and ive been checkin around for a price on a used one, i cant seem to get a straight answer. if any body knows of a good website were i can find prices on these motors can they post it? thanks |
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