'03 Cobra gets rocked - Page 2

Bryan8412 · #16 08-31-2002, 01:25 PM

OK LETS GET SOME THINGS STRAIGHT:

1. Because of the honks the second time we can assume both were staged races and both racers were trying.

2. The cobra stayed slightly in the second run because the z28 DID NOT SPRAY, read the first post next time

3. The Cobra most likely doesn't have any bolt ons yet due to its new nature.

4. Cobra's go 12.3 stock with the seats removed, an excellant driver, and if they got lucky on the pully (some shipped with the wrong underpowered pully). As in the miata v. C5 post we've established the driver issue, and chances are someones been driving a Z28 a hell of alot longer than their new cobra.

5. It IS a '03 as seen by other posters and the reverse hood scoop.

6. The "factory bolt-on" is notorious for stealing power. It's on a similar if not the same aluminum block as the Lightning which has seen gains of 100hp after swapping the supercharger for a quick-spooling turbo.

7. The new Cobras ARE fast NSX, is 12.3 not a fast stock number?

8. He may not of broken it in yet and may not have been redlining it.

9. Lastly, the cobra WILL survive. It has a great performance to price ratio and HUGE potential to be modded into supercars. Reading around on the corvette forums, more of the guys than i can count are picking one up because they're so nice.

Sorry but there was alot of facts flying around and i had to set them straight. The new cobras are fast and can be made even faster, but in time, they just came out next year

MadZ · #17 08-31-2002, 07:11 PM

Damn, looks like I struck a nerve with the ford guys. I like the new cobra by the way, I just thought it was a good video. I wasn't posting this to pick on the ford guys, it just happens that this was the first video I've seen of the new cobra's in action. Anyone have any other videos of it?
I can't wait until I get some $$$ for a supercharger, I ought to be right there with the new cobras.

BlkCamaroSS · #18 08-31-2002, 07:21 PM

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Originally posted by MadZ
Damn, looks like I struck a nerve with the ford guys. I like the new cobra by the way, I just thought it was a good video. I wasn't posting this to pick on the ford guys, it just happens that this was the first video I've seen of the new cobra's in action. Anyone have any other videos of it?
I can't wait until I get some $$$ for a supercharger, I ought to be right there with the new cobras.

No joke, just waiting for the warranty to run out...

Saleen85 · #19 08-31-2002, 09:03 PM

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Originally posted by Bryan8412
OK LETS GET SOME THINGS STRAIGHT:

6. The "factory bolt-on" is notorious for stealing power. It's on a similar if not the same aluminum block as the Lightning which has seen gains of 100hp after swapping the supercharger for a quick-spooling turbo.

Actually, the Lightning is a 5.4L and the Cobra is a 4.6L. I know practically nothing about the lightning, except its a fast truck, and its supercharged.

The new Cobra uses the GT iron block, for longevity reasons, that's one reason why the car weighs more than it did in '01. It uses the same supercharger, but on the lightning, it's top fed, and on the Cobra, it's rear fed. From what I hear, those Eaton's work better rear fed. The lightning would also make more power if it was a DOHC, and not SOHC.

And that's all I have to say about that. As far as who won, who gives a shit. Swap those drivers, I bet the Cobra might win. Some ppl just weren't born to drag race.

Rob

BlkCamaroSS · #20 08-31-2002, 09:10 PM

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Originally posted by Saleen85

As far as who won, who gives a shit. Swap those drivers, I bet the Cobra might win. Some ppl just weren't born to drag race.

Rob

Good point. Unfortunately, like you said, most people that buy high hp cars nowadays don't know how to drive them for shit.

They buy them as status symbols, garaged, or trailered, not what they're meant to be as a high performance sports car. They're built for speed and fun, so make them work to their full potential.

Not saying that I'm a champion driver, I'll be the first to admit that I need practice at staging and launching on the track. That's what practice is for.

Bryan8412 · #21 09-01-2002, 01:21 AM

hmm seems i read wrong. did the concept have an aluminum block? I swear i read that somewhere. either way with a turbo, a boost controller, i/h/e, and a new pully it can pull some serious numbers

BlkCamaroSS · #22 09-01-2002, 01:49 AM

If you're referring to the 03 Cobra's block, the concept may have been aluminum, but I know that the ones they have coming off the line are iron. It had to do with the reliability of the engine with the supercharger one it. Ford wanted to warranty something that wasn't going to cost them money, and they had lots of trouble with the testing of the aluminum one.

DeViL · #23 09-01-2002, 01:49 AM

I guess this post matters as a Chevy vs Ford conversation. But really, what the fuck, none of us own either of these two cars nor do we know them personally. So really none of us know what we're talking about anyways.

street_racer_00 · #24 09-01-2002, 01:54 AM

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Originally posted by DeViL
But really, what the fuck, none of us own either of these two cars nor do we know them personally. So really none of us know what we're talking about anyways.

That's a philosophical, yet truthful outlook on things.

Cbass · #25 09-01-2002, 06:15 AM

I think the guy in the Cobra was probably shifting badly... it takes a lot of power to pull away like that, and 100hp extra in a Z28 shouldn't make THAT much difference...

my 2 cents, don't spend em all in one place!

94svt5.0 · #26 09-01-2002, 11:00 AM

I say, good idea. Lets just compare cars we actually own. All the rest is just bench racing, with the winner being controlled by magazine facts.

BlkCamaroSS · #27 09-01-2002, 12:04 PM

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Originally posted by 94svt5.0
I say, good idea. Lets just compare cars we actually own. All the rest is just bench racing, with the winner being controlled by magazine facts.

As happy as that would make me feel, I fear this place would be dead then because no one would share their knowledge or experience with one another.

street_racer_00 · #28 09-01-2002, 01:42 PM

I think we have developed a new phenomenon here.....lets call it "armchair street racing."

MadZ · #29 09-01-2002, 02:54 PM

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Originally posted by 94svt5.0
I say, good idea. Lets just compare cars we actually own. All the rest is just bench racing, with the winner being controlled by magazine facts.

lol... I'll remember you said that. By the way, it seems you are highly disturbed and damn near offended by this video. Somethin' on your mind? Besides, we really do not know exactly what was done to each of the cars. Read my original post and you will see that this is only what I have heard, not what I know. For all we know, the Z may have been supercharged as well and not spraying at all. So just calm down and stay cool, we all know that the new cobra is an awesome car, but let's face it, there is always gonna be that car that is a bit faster than you no matter what you drive.

94svt5.0 · #30 09-01-2002, 09:06 PM

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Originally posted by MadZ

lol... I'll remember you said that. By the way, it seems you are highly disturbed and damn near offended by this video. Somethin' on your mind? Besides, we really do not know exactly what was done to each of the cars. Read my original post and you will see that this is only what I have heard, not what I know. For all we know, the Z may have been supercharged as well and not spraying at all. So just calm down and stay cool, we all know that the new cobra is an awesome car, but let's face it, there is always gonna be that car that is a bit faster than you no matter what you drive.

Er.. okay....?

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