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Old 08-29-2002, 12:40 PM
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can i just point out to everyone doubting this mans miata that it is turbocharged and it is a miata which is the size of a geo


ie lightweight plus power = arg thats quick sort of reasoning thats the way i see it
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can i just point out to everyone doubting this mans miata that it is turbocharged and it is a miata which is the size of a geo


ie lightweight plus power = arg thats quick sort of reasoning thats the way i see it
That's true, but C5's aren't exactly land yachts.
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That's true, but C5's aren't exactly land yachts.
granted that but i still think he could have im altho i dunno i would thing that it was some old fart driving
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think about what we just posted...


the vette is 3200ish..
the miata is 2299...
that's 1000 pounds... big difference... if the miata is turbo, which it is... it means that the power is over 200 hp easy... that's alot of power for a little weight.

POWER TO WEIGHT
POWER TO WEIGHT
POWER TO WEIGHT

lets assume the miata has a conservative 240hp at the crank... with 2299 pounds, that means that each hp moves 9.58 lbs.

if the vette is 3200lbs, which i don't think it is, (but cannot prove other wise b/c the chevrolet.com site doesn't give weight... ) with hp of 350... power to weight is about 9.14

i'm pretty sure the vette weighs more... almost positive, considering a golf gti weighs about 3300... i think the vette is closer to 3500...

POWER TO WEIGHT GUYS, COME ON
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the vette is...


Car Name: Chevy Corvette C5
Weight: 3215 lbs
Engine: V8
Horsepower: 345 bhp@5600 rpm
Torque: 350 ft/lb@4400 rpm
Transmission: 6 speed manual
0-60 mph: 4.8 seconds
0-100 mph: 11.5 seconds
Top Speed: 172 mph
Price: $38,895
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give the miata a break!!! its super light and its turboed. plus NC8CT doens't bullshit and generally knows what hes talkin about. that and hes a fellow AF Tofu CREW member!!! represent!!!:finger:
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Thats light as shit. A featherweight lol. Miata's don't have a hardtop do they? Cuz thats pretty good being convertible.
Yeah I figured Vettes were about 3200 lbs. The Z06 models I know are a 100 pounds less 3100 for sho .
Relax Tat I don't think many people are calling bs on this. I'm certainly not.

Hey NB8 you show them the Zoom Zoom Mazda always advertises? LoL.
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Dude my car is the way the miata should have come, with some BALLS.
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Good job on showin' him what's-what. But something in the back of my head keeps....I guess it's just my 'domestic car' defenses. I like the design of the new miatas; they look like mini vipers or something. Wouldn't drive one since I'd feel uncomfortable being so close to the road. Anyway, nice job!
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I'm not saying the miata wouldn't beat the C5, let me just get that outof the way.
ok, for all of you "power to weight" guys, yes power to weight is very significant, but it is not everything like yall make it out to be. More power is always a good thing no matter how much the vehicle weighs.
example: My old dirtbike weighed in at approximately 223 lbs. and made about 25 hp. It works out to 8.92:1 pwr to wt. ratio yet there is no way in hell it would out-run the miata or the vette, and it topped out at 65 mph. My point is, no matter how light a car is, it still needs plenty of power. Even if that miata only weighed 1000 pounds it would still need plenty of power to reach... say... 170mph ...vette...cough cough. Let me repeat, I'm not ripping on the miata, just making a point and just a theory at that, so I could be wrong.
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Power to weight is EVERYTHING. Your comparing a dirtbike to a Turbo Miata and a C5?!? Come on really. Ask anyone and they will agree that power to weight is critical if you want to go fast. Case in point: I beat a C5 that is almost 1000 lbs heavier than me, and I have almost 100hp less than it; explain to me again why power to weight isnt important??
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Power to weight is EVERYTHING. Your comparing a dirtbike to a Turbo Miata and a C5?!? Come on really. Ask anyone and they will agree that power to weight is critical if you want to go fast. Case in point: I beat a C5 that is almost 1000 lbs heavier than me, and I have almost 100hp less than it; explain to me again why power to weight isnt important??
Actually power to weight is far from everything. It is important and nobody said it wasn't. Clearly, lightening the load will increase a cars potential for speed.

I've beaten C5s in my cars although my cars certainly heavier. Of course the driver is the single biggest factor, but there is more to it then any one issue like power to weight. From a standstill - you have traction. Higher speeds - you have drag. The power band and a dozen other things also make a difference.

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Power to weight is EVERYTHING. Your comparing a dirtbike to a Turbo Miata and a C5?!? Come on really. Ask anyone and they will agree that power to weight is critical if you want to go fast. Case in point: I beat a C5 that is almost 1000 lbs heavier than me, and I have almost 100hp less than it; explain to me again why power to weight isnt important??
Never said it wasn't important, just said it wasn't everything, read my post again. Are you telling me your miata is capable of over 170 mph? C'mon use your brain and think about this one. My old dirtbike couldn't reach a higher top speed because it lacked the nescessary power to compensate for the wind resistance and such. (it was not gear limited, believe me) So while your miata may be extremely quick, it is still not capable of the speeds of a C5. (so I believe your story actually, I'm just trying to clear up this whole power to weight theory) and your damn straight I'm comparing a dirtbike to a "turbo miata" and C5, because if "power to weight is everything" then it shouldn't matter what the vehicle is right? So it shouldn't matter if the vehicle is a miata or a C5 right? Your totally contradicting yourself... lol
So to sum it all up, with YOUR theory on "power to weight" (even with the proper gearing), my dirtbike should have been able to reach 170+mph.....ummm no. I picked an example like my dirtbike as an extreme example, because if I used something else, yall definately wouldn't understand.
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