check this out guys

[mentel]

thanks for the word lemorris. its becoming frustrating. the drawing looks perfect when im 1/4 way through, then once i progress it starts looking worse :P just gotta work on it i guess

[alphalanos]

i use a ruler to make the axle lines, the headlight line, and the ground line. after that my hand and a pencil are my only tools.

[HighOctaneNOSUser]

When it starts looking bad, take a break...Then do it later...

[KustmAce]

Originally Posted by mentel

all car drawers use some sort of perspective line to map the general shape of the car.

You sure?

[HighOctaneNOSUser]

^^^ I don't...

[knightvision]

Ok, Ok, it's all right. I just tried to draw without my pencil. It did not work. I know, using tools seperates us from the animals. I found out that I use tools and gadgets all the time, as much as possible, but as less as possible when I'm drawing. I'm not an Amish.

Maybe some of use need that to see that there is something you can do without any tools, gadgets, software and that stuff. Just eyes, brain and hand. And soul, like lemorris said.

Um... its getting a bit philosophic now.

I'm very interested in what the drawings looks like. Good luck!

[Ran]

Originally Posted by lemorris

Tools are tools...it really doesn't matter how you draw it...all that matters is what it looks like.

This thing looks like a nifty gadget, but If you don't have vision, insight, desire, and in many cases hunger it's not gonna matter.

If that tool is going to make a perfect render for you, then after using it you should be able to see that perfect render on your own.

Everything we all use can be called tools...."tools of the trade"... Pencil, pen, computer, ruler, eraser, and soul.

Just draw

-Lemorris

I agree with you.

But in my opinion you should be able to draw without the tools, and let them be there to only help you not do the drawing for you. If a tool is going to make shapes and lines, I don't see anything nice in that, even if it actually turns out nice. You must have the talant, soul (i'm sure most of us have that ) and just practice like you said.

[mentel]

see what you guys dont understand what im trying to say, frustrating.

I'm planning on using this as an aid to develop my skill as far as proper perspective goes. That's as sim ple as it gets, im not going into full blown detail. If you guys cant understand what I'm trying to accomplish, then oh well. It's for my own PERSONAL satisfaction. Im not out there to impress shit all. so all you pros go ahead and use nothing but your pencil, i'm going to use my nifty tool that im making to train myself ho w to become such a master as yourself.

[Ran]

Oh so now I understand why you have the avatar ... Just kidding

I see what you mean now, good luck, and hope to see you get better at perspective drawing.

[hellochevy]

thanks for the site

[HighOctaneNOSUser]

I know what you mean Mental, I was just divin into this thing for the fun of it. Must've driven you...ahem....mental

Ok, that was REALLY lame

[mentel]

lol

[rsxse240]

ok, to get you guys back on track.....
this little gadget..the "perspective board".....the way I see it, you can only get ONE perspective, lame if you asked me. I like just using the horizontal and vertical "vanishing point" method if I am getting anal about things. free hand usually works for me, though my drawings are usually just sketches to give life to my models before they are done, so I can stay inspired.

[gnasha]

I don't get where this gadget is any better than a normal board and a normal ruler. You just need 2 or 3 horizon point and have your ruler passing by one of those every time you draw a line.

[rollin_on13s]

Yeah, I think that gnasha's right....

IMHO, if drawing the boxes is what you're having trouble with- just practice drawing boxes in different persectives. Having the ability to do this spontaneously is quite an accomplishment.

If you don't understand the theory behind how lines vanish to the horizon, then get a book on it-and study it a bit. Sounds lame, but it will help.

It all depends on what you're after, really. If you want to do realistic stuff, learn your technique- there's no substitute. if you wanna do 'toons, draw what you like until it looks right- and develop your own style as you go.

But don't be afraid of practicing- and really going through some paper-over and over.

And really, if an apparatus of some kind helps your confidence right now-then go for it.