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Old 04-05-2004, 02:03 AM
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It's been 500 miles with my eGear one so far and that phenomena stopped happenning these days somehow.... I wlll watch mine carefully and report here regularly.
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Old 04-25-2004, 01:14 AM
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E Gear Problems

It seems this is endemic problem with EGear-but as mileage reached about 700-800 the problem went away for the most part-probably due to wear of clutch- But 6 speed drives much faster and smoother.
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Old 04-25-2004, 07:34 AM
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Welcome to the board, Driva550. You are an owner, right? Good to have another one to talk to!
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Old 04-26-2004, 05:03 AM
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Re: e-gear problem in 1st gear when the engine is cold

Yeap, mine went away completely recently, too.
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Old 04-28-2004, 07:55 AM
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It is still about 3 weeks before my E-Gear Gallardo arrives, and I have obviously been concerned by the reports about the problems discussed in this thread, so I asked Lamborghini myself for an explanation.

This is the feedback that I have received :-

Yes, they acknowledge that there have been complaints regarding stalling going uphill. They say that these complaints have all been from new owners and first time Gallardo drivers. They say that "new/first time" Gallardo drivers are often understandably quite hesitant and indecisive in their driving of the E-Gear Gallardo, and as a result the E-Gear system cannot correctly decide what the driver wants, and it may stall, especially when driven slowly up steep gradients.

I was told about one local owner here, that had trouble getting up his driveway, and they flew a Lambo tech 600miles to check out the problem, and when the owner was shown how to drive it "decisively", he had no more problems. (Not sure if this means attacking your driveway at 100mph???)

They say that once you become familiar with it, these problems quickly disappear.

Any comments?

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Old 04-29-2004, 04:44 PM
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JD, I don't have a steep driveway,(although I have had to tackle a couple of steep hills in first gear) - and I have had no problems with e-gear. The story you got from Lamborghini is consistent with an unsolicited remark from my dealer that I should be "decisive" when accelerating from rest and not to feather the throttle.

I've done 5000 km in my e-gear which would make me one of the more experienced owners on the boards, I suspect. My e-gear works exactly as I expected it to. I would rate it as one of the car's best features. Certainly the handful of friends I've let have a drive loved the e-gear - along with the power, handling....

If low speed ease of driving is your main criterion, I wouldn't get any Gallardo, manual or e-gear. The car has poor front clearance and hates spoon drains, it doesn't like full lock applied (LSD etc), and it is hard to judge the extremities due to low seat and blind spots. If these things matter, an SL55 would be a better bet. On the other hand, the car is brilliant on winding roads, tours well enough, goes like mad and looks amazing. I like fast driving and the e-gear enables a both-hands-on-wheel style of driving into corners which I like best.

In my mind, some drivers will love the e-gear, others won't adapt as easily and some (like those who must navigate a tight radius, steep driveway) should stay away - or at least try the car before they buy. I've never had my car stall, but the e-gear will sense when you are almost stopped and throw out the clutch - as it must for stopping at traffic lights, for example.

JD, it will be good to welcome you to the board with your new car. You are in for some fun!

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Old 04-29-2004, 09:56 PM
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Re: e-gear problem in 1st gear when the engine is cold

yeah, Ferrari was having problems with their F1 paddle shifter on the Modena a couple years back......it could be the software conflicting with something, or an improper command being given
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Old 05-06-2004, 02:31 PM
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Re: e-gear problem in 1st gear when the engine is cold

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It is still about 3 weeks before my E-Gear Gallardo arrives, and I have obviously been concerned by the reports about the problems discussed in this thread, so I asked Lamborghini myself for an explanation.

This is the feedback that I have received :-

Yes, they acknowledge that there have been complaints regarding stalling going uphill. They say that these complaints have all been from new owners and first time Gallardo drivers. They say that "new/first time" Gallardo drivers are often understandably quite hesitant and indecisive in their driving of the E-Gear Gallardo, and as a result the E-Gear system cannot correctly decide what the driver wants, and it may stall, especially when driven slowly up steep gradients.

I was told about one local owner here, that had trouble getting up his driveway, and they flew a Lambo tech 600miles to check out the problem, and when the owner was shown how to drive it "decisively", he had no more problems. (Not sure if this means attacking your driveway at 100mph???)

They say that once you become familiar with it, these problems quickly disappear.

Any comments?

Cheers,

JD
This is total crap if you don't mind me saying so. They tried to pull this "inexperienced driver" excuse on me also until I invited them to bring their own "experienced drivers" to achieve what I couldn't. The result, a vehicle almost on fire when they reached the top of my driveway! It has nothing to do with inexperience, it's a fault in the vehicle.

For the record I've been driving for 35 years and have had other high performance vehicles, both stick and automatic. I've lived in the same home for 10 years and even a large FEDEX truck has no problem with my driveway.

If you look on this and other Lambo forums you will see many complaints about the e-gear system, especially if you have hills to climb to get home. Mine wouldn't make it up my driveway without almost catching on fire, I have returned the Gallardo and are now in a lawsuit with Lamborghini and the dealer Platinum Motors (Lamborghini Beverly Hills) under California's lemon law. I only mention this to stop others ending up in this situation.
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Old 05-07-2004, 08:27 AM
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Re: Re: e-gear problem in 1st gear when the engine is cold

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This is total crap if you don't mind me saying so. They tried to pull this "inexperienced driver" excuse on me also until I invited them to bring their own "experienced drivers" to achieve what I couldn't. The result, a vehicle almost on fire when they reached the top of my driveway! It has nothing to do with inexperience, it's a fault in the vehicle.

For the record I've been driving for 35 years and have had other high performance vehicles, both stick and automatic. I've lived in the same home for 10 years and even a large FEDEX truck has no problem with my driveway.

If you look on this and other Lambo forums you will see many complaints about the e-gear system, especially if you have hills to climb to get home. Mine wouldn't make it up my driveway without almost catching on fire, I have returned the Gallardo and are now in a lawsuit with Lamborghini and the dealer Platinum Motors (Lamborghini Beverly Hills) under California's lemon law. I only mention this to stop others ending up in this situation.
Lamborghini the company, and its associated dealers continue to have a questionable reputation. Over the years there have been many horror stories of cars that were poorly put together and poor support from the dealers and Lambo the company. Its obvious that the lure or draw of the car is its looks, its promise of acelleration and speed, exclusivity, etc, is what caused many a car buff to part with his money knowing the risks with the purchase. Every buyer HOPES that his experiance will be different, better. A fair number of new LAmbo's wind up on the used car market within 6 months of being new. Many are just 1 year old. Has to be a reason for this. Buyer unhappy, over his financial ability to pay for car, buyers remorse? Of course usually a big financial loss occurs when they try to get rid of the car early in its life. A 50K loss on the Murcielago is not uncommon. I must admit that I too was smitten by the LAmborghini mystique. Especially with the Diablo. However, being a litle older and supposedly wiser, I refuse to become a victim. I have little patience for these kind of things. I can think of better things to do than spend countless hours at the LAmbo dealer for problems, having the car dissapoint me time and time again and wishing I had bought something else. SO the closest that a Lamborghini will get to my garage is the picture of a beautiful Countach hanging on my wall. However, they say that the new Murcielago is a much better car! Hmmmmm
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Sorry gweb, I don't get it. Are you saying you have never owned a Lambo and don't intend to (being too wise)? So, why are you here, exactly?
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Old 05-07-2004, 02:00 PM
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One does not have to be a Lamborghini owner to use this site. In fact, before purchasing, this site like other sites for cars, planes, boats, etc, can be a storehouse of knowledge to help a potential buyer to learn about the product before purchase. Like many before me, I come to this sight for this very information that I speak off. Having owned other exotic cars I have been interested in a possible Lamborghini purchase for about two years now. I have joined the Lamborghini Owners Club, gone to a few LAmborghini car shows, talked with owners, etc. In other words, did my homework. After all of this I have reached the conclusion that I wrote about in a previous posting. I am stating my opinion based upon my reserch. Others, I am sure, would not agree as evidenced by the many Lamborghini's being purchased. Again, this is my opinion.
My comments about the Murcielago were said somewhat in jest but to clarify a bit, the Murcielago, from everything I have been able to find out including owners opinions, is a much improved car over the Diablo. With Audi's money and techincal resources the car is much improved. I have been considering the Murci but still am concerned about the dealer service. Also, I personally feel that the Diablo, especially the 6.0 is much more beautiful than the Murcielago. Then again, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I have driven the car but not enough to really know if I like it. Most dealers will not let you drive before you buy so it is difficult to get a feel of the car before hand. Of cours the Dealer hopes you will buy the car first. Then if you are dissapointed sell it back to him for about $40K less then you paid and he will resell it and make more money the second time around than he did the first. I would like to avoid that pitfall if possible. Hope this answered your question as to, "why I am here".
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I agree you don't need to be an owner to post on this site - being an enthusiast is all you need. My point is if you are neither ("I refuse to be a victim"), why bother coming here? Is it just a selfless crusade to save others from their own foolishness?

From your last post, it sounds like you have some interesting points to make. The earlier post looked like a flame, don't you think?.
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Re: e-gear problem in 1st gear when the engine is cold

Your perception may be different from mine. Just curious if you are an owner of a Lamborghini and, if so, what model?
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Old 05-09-2004, 08:22 AM
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Re: Re: e-gear problem in 1st gear when the engine is cold

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Your perception may be different from mine. Just curious if you are an owner of a Lamborghini and, if so, what model?
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Old 05-10-2004, 01:00 AM
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Re: e-gear problem in 1st gear when the engine is cold

Hey guys, I drove in the Motor Trend test Gallardo (issue coming soon). My good friend is a Road Test editor there. I spent all weekend in the car, and the e-gear was flawless. Even during the test and Streets of Willow it was rock solid. We went up countless driveways and it never stalled. Sometimes it would have trouble going over speed bumps though because its so low. One of the worst sounds i've ever hear is bottom out a lamboghini. LOL.

Hopefully you guys get the problems squared away!!
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