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[Jared_80]

Originally Posted by portscan69

Tiburon's run 15's Jared_80. To be exact the Tiburon is in with it's competitors. Put a turbo on the Tiburon and see what it does to the Neon. Eclipse Spyder is in Tiburon Competition and the Tiburon times in all events are better than the spyder... The Celica GT-S top speed 134, tiburon 137.. Celica with 10 more HP on the Tiburon only gets the Tiburon in the quarter mile by .2 10th's of a second... 1 slip up by the driver in the celica and the tiburon would murder it.. So check your stats first cause the Tiburon is well in competition with competitors..

First off who is comparing it to the Celica??? The Celica a good car and all but on the track it is not much either. Secondly .2 seconds is alot of time in the 1/4 mile when you are racing for money. Third even if I was comparing it to the Celica the top speed in most proformance cars is electronicly regulated, so the 134mph top speed of the Celica does not mean anything once you replace the fuel pump (which you would have to do anyway if you were adding boost) As far as putting a turbo on a Tiburon you would void your wonderful warenty that you are so proud of because Hyundai does not have an in-house proformance department like Toyota (TRD) or Nissan (NISSMO). Also their engines are not turbo proven like the 4g-63, RB26DETT, SW20, 2JZ-GTE, or the SR20DET. I have never seen a Hyundai put out 800+whp on stock internals(I have seen a Toyota do that) and I don't think that I ever will. Lancers are frequently tuned to past 500hp and since they can put that power to the ground (AWD and LSD) they can do things that no Tiburon could ever hope to do. Oh as far as price goes by time you turbo your car and install a LSD you will have spent at leased as much as the new Evo RS costs, and you will still loose to the AWD traction. I hate to sound mean but I doubt that even with 10k in mods you could take a J-spec Evo and he still has way more tuning potential.

[tibby01]

Originally Posted by Jared_80

First off who is comparing it to the Celica???

you said "real import tuners" and alot of people think celicas and eclipses are benchmarks of import tuner cars.

1) the tib would run VERY VERY close to any of your domestic cars on a real track while being 5k less than the stang gt and 3k less than the z28.

2) the neon turbo is not stupid, and could run with any one of those domestics, stock. with the extra money saved off the msrp, it wouldnt even be a contest.

3) .2 seconds is not much time at all. remember, these are people testing these cars, not machines. im sure those times were taken after 3 runs TOPS, where even the best drivers dont have enough time to "feel" the car and run it to its best time.

4) you were comparing it in its stock form, thats why i was talking about the warranty. i was showing that it was near the other cars performance-wise, with a 100000 mile warranty.

5) i dont even know why you are comparing it to the evo, its like a bidgillion dollars.

6) gimme half the difference between the i4 tibby(16000) and the j spec evo (around 36000 im guessing) and ill show you what the true tiburon engine can do.

7) the stock internals on a toyota that can do that are off of a 40000+ dollar car. where the hell does that fall in with a tiburon?

8)i4 tibby= 16000
turbo kit(includes strengthened internals) = 3500
LSD = 800
heavy clutch kit = 600
exhaust = 400
haltech = 800
boost contolller= 300

that will give you well over 250 whp. under high boost, prolly 320+.
all for 22000

if you dont believe me on the prices, i can post websites for you, just dont have the time now.

9) the v6 is not meant for high hp. its meant for good stock power, not to be drastically tuned. it wasnt built for that. the bottom end bolts rip right outta the block at around 250 whp cause they have a torque spec rating of about 12lbs.ft. look at its beta 4 cylinder cousin though, its a whole nother story.

10) the v6 tib's engine is only 2.7 liters.

so that is 67 hp per liter

stang gt= 56 hp per liter

z28 = 54 hp per liter

who has the better engine technology?

[nisco]

see now thats a man who knows his shit.. unlike a stupid fuckin tool like someone on these threads who thinks hes the shit.... no names mentioned

[Jared_80]

You said it best tibby that V6 was not ment for serous tuning, that is why I think that it does not belong in a sports car. Though you are smoking crack if you think that the Celica or the Eclips is the benchmark for tuners!!! Have you ever even seen a Supra, an Evo (28,000 not a bagillion and the faster RS version will be about 2k less)have you seen a 300ZX, how about a NSX, what about a WRX?!? The Celica and Eclipse (with the exception of the GSX model) are the cars of choice for posers not real tuners, when you understand that then I can teach you more. Please note that the Japanese rarly tune the Celica or the Eclipse, because they are not that good for compatition level proformance, just like the Tiburon. Oh and to get that 4 banger to 300hp you would have to give it over 15psi of boost!!! Show me a turbo kit that will do that reliably for $3500! Even if you could do that you would have to modify your diff if you wanted to put that any of that power to the ground and that is another grand after instalation.

[tibby01]

Originally Posted by tibby01

you said "real import tuners" and alot of people think celicas and eclipses are benchmarks of import tuner cars.

notice how i said "a lot of people". here in the states they do think that. i never said i specifically did. how many people do you know of that have a supra, nsx, evo, wrx, or 300zx? if its a lot ill start being your friend. how can they be a benchmark with so little produced?

Originally Posted by Jared_80

Even if you could do that you would have to modify your diff if you wanted to put that any of that power to the ground and that is another grand after instalation.

i put LSD on the list. look closely. and "real" tuners dont pay somone to do the installation, they do it themselves.

Originally Posted by Jared_80

Oh and to get that 4 banger to 300hp you would have to give it over 15psi of boost!!! Show me a turbo kit that will do that reliably for $3500!.

check out the turbo kit for the beta
http://www.speed-factor.com/

2600 no pistons. get some pistons http://www.kspec.com/list.php?ac_id=38&ai_id=136

some rods http://www.pauter.com/billet_rods.htm

sell the safc and turbo timer from the kit, buy a haltech system.

your engine is now a lot stronger and your at 3500 with close to 300hp at the crank. the garret turbo can push 15pounds no problem. its the haltech that is the key though.

just wondering... what kind of car do you own?


now leave me alone... gotta write a 12 page research paper by tomorrow

[ColeIketani]

Also I have to say that there are other types of competitive driving angles that the Tib is a great contender in besides drag time. It's a great slalom car and does great on spirited backroads. (Talking about the I4 and the GT). So far I fail to see the point in Jared real arguement if he really knows how to drive his own car. I mean seriously the bottom line is, if you don't own the car and want to prove that your car is better, just go out on the street and beat it yourself in a competive race of any type.

[portscan69]

Jared you stated that the tib wasnt with it's competitors and i simply showed that it was but tibby laid that shit out the ko-rect way.. Face it, the tib has got it. Just cause it isnt a Honda or Nissan doesnt mean it's not in with competition. Also there is a turbo and supercharger for the Tiburon that will not void your warranty..

[nisco]

who really wants a wrx... evo... or srt-4 to tune?.. its already built up?... theres honestly not much more to do other than upgrade them....
i can get my tib v6 super charged to close to 300 whp... yeah thats more horses than those turbo'd monters...
so you really dont know shit...
i knwo a guy who has taken alpine's super charger and tweeked it... he made one to get to 250 whp... and his own is close to 300... so you really dont know too much abotu anything.. you know facts... and facare not always true...
the mazdarx-8 keeps losing horse power from what mazda stated it had...
i wouldnt have fun tuning an evo/wrx/srt-4... i would have more fun puttin my time and money in a car that is not only better looking but in the end has better all around value

and with the 6 grand id spend on the super charger and a brand new v6.. id still have more money to spend to equal the total value of any of teh cars you keep mentioning...

[TibsBeatALL]

whoa man...
did he jus compare the tibby to a NSX and a Supra??
uh........
i don't think you realize the price differences.
u were on the losing side from the start.
u jus made an ass of yourself and i'm totally happy for you cuz ur an idiot.
geez wat a cracker.

[Jared_80]

Originally Posted by TibsBeatALL

whoa man...
did he jus compare the tibby to a NSX and a Supra??
uh........
i don't think you realize the price differences.
u were on the losing side from the start.
u jus made an ass of yourself and i'm totally happy for you cuz ur an idiot.
geez wat a cracker.

I did not compare the Supra or the NSX to the Tib; read the prevous quotes. I said that the Eclipse and Celica were not the "benchmark" of tuners. Don't twist what I am saying.

[Jared_80]

Originally Posted by portscan69

Jared you stated that the tib wasnt with it's competitors and i simply showed that it was but tibby laid that shit out the ko-rect way.. Face it, the tib has got it. Just cause it isnt a Honda or Nissan doesnt mean it's not in with competition. Also there is a turbo and supercharger for the Tiburon that will not void your warranty..

Ok yall keep talking about the tib like it is a great tuner car so show me ONE that can match a stock Evo in the slolom, or 0-60, better yet try to find one that can do that for less than the stock evo costs. I bet that you cannot, and yall can turbocharge thet 4 all you want to but without a LSD you will never get very good 1/4 mile times. The ONLY things that I have seen a tib do very well is look really good sitting still, and having a great warenty.

[Jared_80]

Originally Posted by nisco

who really wants a wrx... evo... or srt-4 to tune?.. its already built up?... theres honestly not much more to do other than upgrade them....
i can get my tib v6 super charged to close to 300 whp... yeah thats more horses than those turbo'd monters...
so you really dont know shit...
i knwo a guy who has taken alpine's super charger and tweeked it... he made one to get to 250 whp... and his own is close to 300... so you really dont know too much abotu anything.. you know facts... and facare not always true...
the mazdarx-8 keeps losing horse power from what mazda stated it had...
i wouldnt have fun tuning an evo/wrx/srt-4... i would have more fun puttin my time and money in a car that is not only better looking but in the end has better all around value

and with the 6 grand id spend on the super charger and a brand new v6.. id still have more money to spend to equal the total value of any of teh cars you keep mentioning...

OOOOOh so you can max out your V6 to 300hp great, but I have seen Evos putting over 700hp to the ground, on street gas. Now that is true tuning potential, and it unlike the tib has AWD and LSD so it can put that power down in a heartbeat, insted of smoking tires the whole 1/4 mile. I have seen an AWD tib but it was an expensive rally car.

[nisco]

man.. i dont think you realize how new the aftermarket following for teh 03 tib is....
you dun understand that almost everything on this car is new!
it took hyundai long enough to get repsect.. and once they do... people wanna knock it... cause its name is hyundai... repetitive arguements are jus blahh blahh blahh to tib owners.. theyve heard it all before... if you even owned a tib youd see hwo difficult and hwo expensive its been to tune a hyundai... the cars and comanies youve named... all have huge aftermarket following... and teh wrx... ev.. and srt-4 all have factory warranties... even with their turbos.,.. plus you can buy up grade kits.. from teh dealer.....

you keep comparing cars way outa teh price range to teh tib...
youre comparing the tib to a supra and an nsx...

we understand youre not happy with the tib... and your arguments are pointlesss...

in any race.. a real championship race..
teh tib would not even be in teh same class as an evo/wrx/srt4
those all f/i the tib unless it has a turbo wouodnt be in that class itd be in teh n/a catagory

[Jared_80]

Originally Posted by nisco

man.. i dont think you realize how new the aftermarket following for teh 03 tib is....
you dun understand that almost everything on this car is new!
it took hyundai long enough to get repsect.. and once they do... people wanna knock it... cause its name is hyundai... repetitive arguements are jus blahh blahh blahh to tib owners.. theyve heard it all before... if you even owned a tib youd see hwo difficult and hwo expensive its been to tune a hyundai... the cars and comanies youve named... all have huge aftermarket following... and teh wrx... ev.. and srt-4 all have factory warranties... even with their turbos.,.. plus you can buy up grade kits.. from teh dealer.....

you keep comparing cars way outa teh price range to teh tib...
youre comparing the tib to a supra and an nsx...

we understand youre not happy with the tib... and your arguments are pointlesss...

in any race.. a real championship race..
teh tib would not even be in teh same class as an evo/wrx/srt4
those all f/i the tib unless it has a turbo wouodnt be in that class itd be in teh n/a catagory

Wow! dude I am nobody to complain about spelling but I had a hard time making out some of those words. You still did not anwser my challange, find me a tib that can take an Evo in the 0-60 or the slolom. I don't care how great your aftermarket folowing is. And some of the cars that I quoted are not out of your price range like the srt-4 which is just a little more. And quit saying that I am comparing the NSX and WRX to the tib I just said that the Celica and Eclipse were not the benchmark that sombody clamed they were. If you read this thread you would know that. I have no doubt that the tib is a pretty good car but I am saying that it is not a proformance car, now take on my challenge and prove me wrong or shut up!!!! I started this because I like the layout of the tib and I thought that it was a shame that they made it so weak, I did not come here for a fight but if that is the way you want it so be it, I said it before and I will say it again anyone who calls me out will be pubicly thrashed. Oh and yes you are right about the turbos not being in the same class as the tib, but the Eclipse GT, and the 350Z are! And trust me when I say that you will not win anything there! I have seen NA 4 banger that would take your V6 to the cleaners in the same price range! I think that it was SCC a few months ago compared all of the sports cars under 20k and the tib came in DEAD LAST!! Behind the proformance Focus, behind the Mini, behind the Mazdaspeed Protage, behind the srt-4. So what do you have to say about that??? Face it you guys just loose any way you look at it! Still don't beleve me that the tib needs work?? Do you want me to rub it in some more or do you give up? You guys are almost as bad as those posers who "tune" civics, who think that 20" crome rims and body kits make a car fast. Do you know what is really sad I am an import fan I drive nothing but imports and even I think that you are dumb. Even the muscle car guys can make a better argument than you! What is wrong with you??

[Jared_80]

The truth hurts.