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Old 12-05-2003, 01:42 PM
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Re: Help!!!!! 1999 A41.8t Or 2000 Maxima Gxe

and by the way, dont turn it on me now, FWD, RWD, and AWD all have their pluses and minuses, pick and choose which ones u'd like to believe.
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Old 12-05-2003, 06:35 PM
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Re: Help!!!!! 1999 A41.8t Or 2000 Maxima Gxe

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actually, FWD is safer than RWD therion... whether in rain or snow, RWD cars have less control than FWD... for example, my mom's toyota camry does better in the rain and snow than my brother's M3... you're jus desperately lookin for ways to get him to argue with u so jus quit because like that one quote i read on here somethin like "arguing on the internet is like the special olympics. even if u win, ur still retarded." he basically made u look stupid by sayin hes done discussin it wit u therion
Yes FWD is more fool-proof. Vehicles with RWD tend to have less traction in slick low speed conditions. This was one of the #1 complaints that I heard from some people, they had trouble pulling out of their driveways on a wet or snowy day. Of course, front-wheel-drive cars also spin out in the same conditions, and rear-wheel-drive vehicles can gain traction by simply adding ballast weight to the rear luggage compartment. However, rear-wheel-drive vehicles have a natural stability in emergency situations. This especially applies during braking. Therefore safety under low speed acceleration on a FWD may be better, but under most other circumstances RWD is better, including braking ability.

And btw, AWD has most of the advantages of FWD (less slip in the wet), and a naturally equal steering that can be pushed to the edge similer to RWD. RWD may be preferred by some who like to drift around corners, but where are you going to do that here ??? it would be an unsafe practice but its fun to do on an isolated road! (my next car is a 911 )

And he made himself look stupid becuase he doesnt know what the F*CK he's talking about.
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Re: Help!!!!! 1999 A41.8t Or 2000 Maxima Gxe

everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but it all comes down to an audi with quattro is simply the best car ever
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Old 12-06-2003, 11:35 AM
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Re: Help!!!!! 1999 A41.8t Or 2000 Maxima Gxe

I drove them in the snow yesterday at work and they are not all that impressive, even with snows. My blazer 4wd will smoke it in the snow, so why not get a true 4wd!!!!!!!!!
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Old 12-06-2003, 06:39 PM
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I drove them in the snow yesterday at work and they are not all that impressive, even with snows. My blazer 4wd will smoke it in the snow, so why not get a true 4wd!!!!!!!!!
Hmmm awd has been banned in every racing category i know off (f1, touring cars [fia class 2], gt, imsa, etc)- except fia class 1 which died last year anyway. in that category (450hp, active suspension, carbon/carbon brakes etc).

The fact is on the Quattro rally cars, the entire
drivetrain was custom made, and as you mentioned had a manual bias setup for transferring power from one end of the car to the other. I do agree that for daily driving Audi is more practical.

but 4WD must be disengaged when running on dry pavement. This is because the transfer case provides a 50-50 power split, and there's no mechanical compensation for the differences in tire speeds that occur when rounding corners. Leaving 4WD engaged on dry pavement causes the transfer case to wear--and eventually fail. Repairing a 4WD transfer case is expensive. that is inconvenient in conditions of light rain or patchy snow because they must be switched back and forth while driving. To engage 4WD Low, which is typically used only in severe off-road driving, the vehicle must be brought to a complete stop. Unless u have a full time 4WD vehicle.

AWD is a system where the majority of power, sometimes all, is placed to one set of wheels (the front, or the rear in most cases) and approx. 20% is towards the other. If the AWD system detects wheel slippage, the computer transfers power from the rear wheels to the front, helping to prevent loss of control.

If 4wd is better than AWD then why do you think Range Rovers, Jeep Grand Cherokee the best in off road use AWD. Audi came out with Quattro in 1977. Audi is the market leader in the all-wheel-drive passenger car sector in Germany, and also in Europe as a whole, where its market share is over 13 percent.
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Old 12-08-2003, 07:41 PM
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Re: Help!!!!! 1999 A41.8t Or 2000 Maxima Gxe

therion, just so you know there is no computer for the AWD system on the A4,A6and A8. They use what is called a torsion differential in the back of the trans which send power to the rear wheels based on heat build caused by slippage!!!!! The TT does have a control unit on the rear differential!!!!! If the vehicle has ESP, Electronic Stability Protection, the system is part of the ABS and actually activates ABS when slip is detected!!!!!! Just so you know!!!!!
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Old 12-08-2003, 07:59 PM
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Re: Help!!!!! 1999 A41.8t Or 2000 Maxima Gxe

Sorry was talking to a friend on the phone when I wrote last reply about anti theft protection. ESP= Electronic Stability Program.
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Re: Re: Help!!!!! 1999 A41.8t Or 2000 Maxima Gxe

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manual bias setup for transferring power from one end of the car to the other. I do agree that for daily driving Audi is more practical.
I dont know if you didnt read that part or not, but i am aware that is isnt computer controlled, hence manual bias.
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Seeing as where he lives I would say get the A4 because of snow and tons of stupid drivers (if he lives in city). I do like both cars but the Audi is just better IMO. Now if the max was RWD or AWD then it would be different. However I just dont understand why all these people in hear keep arguing that FWD is better than RWD and AWD? It dosnt make any sense! If you know anything about cars and weight transfer RWD and AWD AWAYS! come out on top. FWD is made for people who do not know how to drive and in the long run FWD is really only hurting those people. They only place FWD can compare to RWD some what is in snow. And thats because when you slid with FWD you can correct the slid by just steping on the gas. However if you didnt have FWD you probably wouldnt be sliding in the first place But lets just forget all this FWD vs RWD right now because its FWD vs AWD and AWD is just better.

So I would go with the Audi more comfortable and its AWD. If you need more power just chip it the 1.8T motor responds very well to bolt on mods. No matter which one you pick tho you will be happy both are nice cars.
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Re: Help!!!!! 1999 A41.8t Or 2000 Maxima Gxe

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Seeing as where he lives I would say get the A4 because of snow and tons of stupid drivers (if he lives in city). I do like both cars but the Audi is just better IMO. Now if the max was RWD or AWD then it would be different. However I just dont understand why all these people in hear keep arguing that FWD is better than RWD and AWD? It dosnt make any sense! If you know anything about cars and weight transfer RWD and AWD AWAYS! come out on top. FWD is made for people who do not know how to drive and in the long run FWD is really only hurting those people. They only place FWD can compare to RWD some what is in snow. And thats because when you slid with FWD you can correct the slid by just steping on the gas. However if you didnt have FWD you probably wouldnt be sliding in the first place But lets just forget all this FWD vs RWD right now because its FWD vs AWD and AWD is just better.

So I would go with the Audi more comfortable and its AWD. If you need more power just chip it the 1.8T motor responds very well to bolt on mods. No matter which one you pick tho you will be happy both are nice cars.
Thank you finally someone with wisdom posts on this thread. Yes i dont say the maxima sucks either becuase if you want 0-60 performance and thats all u care about than the maxima is better, but the audi is more of a car overall.
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Old 12-10-2003, 08:00 PM
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Re: Help!!!!! 1999 A41.8t Or 2000 Maxima Gxe

Are you saying I have no wisdom???? If you had any wisdom you would know that they are JUNK!!!!!!!! Sorry Dude, that is my humble but accurate opinion.
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Are you saying I have no wisdom???? If you had any wisdom you would know that they are JUNK!!!!!!!! Sorry Dude, that is my humble but accurate opinion.
I dont question your technical expertise becuase you oviously know alot about cars. But the way you talk on these boards is very childish and no respect. You shouldn't just bias ur opinion on japanese is better german cars suck. Each of them has there pluses and minuses. I've owned 3 japanese cars and german cars too so i know how each of them rate.
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Old 12-11-2003, 07:06 AM
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I'm sorry you think the way I post is childish and with out respect. Respect to what? German cars? I see more stupid failures, that just should not happen, ON ANY VEHICLE!!!And it's not just Audi!!! I think on a whole, having worked on domestics, imports(jap & euro's) that the domestics and euro's do not match the Jap cars!!!!! Don't take it personal, hey I drive Domestic car. People think I'm crazy for that reason,My out look MADE IN THE USA!!!!!!!!
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What Euro cars have you been driving? The only unreliable Euro cars I have seen are from the 80s and their not even that bad.
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Red face Oh the opinions......

After reading through each reply stated about the topic, "A4 1.8T vs. Maxima GXE", it seems too many of you have an urge to state or make-up some fatal flaw in the Audi A4 design, not to mention some of you tend to get off topic only to brag about your own car. It seems that the japanese car enthusist are too caught up in the prosicution to consider their own car's weaknesses. Such as the lack of craftsmenship put into each Maxima, they would be the "Cookie cutter" car. Audi servce costs may have been a better topic to poke rather than te AWD. Bottum line is, every car has its own flaw, and buy the car that you feel is right for you not because of someones opinion. Let me remind you all, that not every single person buys a car for pure power, or how fast it will go from 0 to 60. If you are honestly only buying cars for that sole reason here's a hint, buy a Ferrari or Bugatti, they might satisfy your thirst for power.








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