Protestors of war refuse to pay taxes

[bigfrit]

Originally posted by Murco

So, we should be governed by polling companies? What about leadership? What country do you live in? America is not, and never has been, a democracy. We live in a representative republic. Thank GOD we do not bend to the whims on every protested topic. Also, ever notice the loudest people are usually the ones with the weakest substance to their cries.

I believe that the people have the power to run a country, they choose a representative that voices the people's opinion. I believe people have common sence enough to make the right decisions.

Also, the democracy is good, because unlike many countries, our legal system has got this where people can protest openly, and there will never be such a thing possible as making black people leave the country, because we have (I do not know about foreign counties) a thing called the "protection of the minorities", so their rights can not, I repeat NOT be violated.

I yesterday heard about the new system of direct democracy they were using in switzerland, and was pleasently surprised by it ,
when the parlementarians vote a law project or a big case, the people are asked to vote in favour or not, this can be done by phone , mail, at the mayor's house and it's free of charge.
This way the people can themselves have the outcome of the voting in their hands. That is what I call a modern and model democracy.

Ps. don't think this is each month, it's only with the BIG cases .


Peace, and think of it, YOUR system is not always the best system.
Only fools think that.

Peace, Olivier

PS; sorry for my lack of english knowledge, I might have translated some terms too literally or totally wrong .

[tomlong]

how is that relevant to what I said?I don't think I actually said that it was impossible for a President to get in without buying votes,did I?What I did say was that a significant proportion of voters base their decision on who will give them the biggest tax cut.

You have no idea what you are talking about I did not vote for Bush because of a tax cut. What good did the $300.00 per person do for me? I think it bought me dinner, drinks, and a round or two of golf. And to all the people not paying their taxes to protest you should all be locked up. They can cry all they want and try to hurt our government, but the truth of the matter is most republicans are the ones which pay the majority of taxes because demographically they make more money, recieve less welfare and other government aid, and invest more for the future. I paid 30 large last year in taxes and I cannot stand people who try to look for any reason not to pay their dues.

[taranaki]

Originally posted by tomlong


You have no idea what you are talking about I did not vote for Bush because of a tax cut.

Don't tell me that I have no idea what I am talking about until you have taken the trouble to read what I have written.Go back,read it and take it all in.What I did say was that a significant proportion of voters base their decision on who will give them the biggest tax cut.

NOWHERE did I say that it had influenced your decision,but I'm willing to wager that if he had promised tax increases,then that may have been a point that you would have taken into consideration before voting.

[tomlong]

What I did say was that a significant proportion of voters base their decision on who will give them the biggest tax cut.

Do you have any facts to back this. I do not believe it one bit. I will give you an example. In the state of Maryland we voted for governer last fall and the Republican won even though he stated that we would possibly have tax increases due to the state budget being in bad shape because of the last governer who was not seeking relection.

[taranaki]

Originally posted by tomlong


Do you have any facts to back this.

Obviously I don't.In a democracy nobody is required to demonstrate a clear and logical reason for their choice of vote.Thus even the greediest,most ignorant and stupidest of citizens have the same voting rights as those who actually care about the wider issues.It's human nature,you cannot quantify it into statistics,any more than you can predict the reactions of hijack victims based on their nationality.It's opinion,it's my opinion,and if you will do me the courtesy of respecting it,I'll return the favour.

[tomlong]

You are correct I am spending to much time speculating over the issue of how someone may or may not react. I can only speak for myself.

[Pick]

Originally posted by taranaki


Don't tell me that I have no idea what I am talking about until you have taken the trouble to read what I have written.Go back,read it and take it all in.What I did say was that a significant proportion of voters base their decision on who will give them the biggest tax cut.

NOWHERE did I say that it had influenced your decision,but I'm willing to wager that if he had promised tax increases,then that may have been a point that you would have taken into consideration before voting.

If what you say is true, then no liberal democrat would never be elected.