favorite weekend car: Maserati 4200 GT, Ferrari 355 F1, Porsche 996 C4S or 500 SL?

[NISSANSPDR]

Originally posted by BlOOe46


umm. . . i beg to differ . . . can we say 'SMG II'

The SMG is not better than the F1...just b/c it has like a dozen settings doesnt make it the best...anyways...you MUST have seen Ferrari win at F1...if BMW was so great....why arent they winning at F1?

LOL

Case closed.

[BMW-Hamann]

Originally posted by NISSANSPDR


The SMG is not better than the F1...just b/c it has like a dozen settings doesnt make it the best...anyways...you MUST have seen Ferrari win at F1...if BMW was so great....why arent they winning at F1?

LOL

Case closed.

... nissan .. take it easy ... ... u make the point ... but which one do you think is smoother to operate between the SMG system and F1 coz I heard the F1 is not smooth or jerky in the stop and go traffic .. I am talking about road aplication here ..

[BlOOe46]

The SMG is not better than the F1...just b/c it has like a dozen settings doesnt make it the best...anyways...you MUST have seen Ferrari win at F1...if BMW was so great....why arent they winning at F1?

we are talking manual based semi-automatic trannys here, not whose F1 team is better, that is an entirely different argument

i first countered ur statement that ferrari F1's manual based semi-automatic tranny was the best by saying BMW's SMG II was the best, and i stick by my statement (so do many automotive journalists, if u ever bother to check comparisons)

whether u are talking refinement or performance, BMW's SMG II beats Ferrari's F1 tranny . . . lets look at performance first, shall we?

ferrari F1 takes .15 seconds to upshift, while BMW SMG II takes .08 seconds to upshift (were talking both in sport modes, sport position and S6, respectively)
as we can see here, both trannys in sport mode, SMG II upshifts 2x faster then Ferrari's F1

what about refinement?
Ferrari has what . . . 3 different modes? (full auto, sport position, semi-auto) while the BMW has 5 different automatic modes A1-A5, and 6 different sport modes S1-S6
not to mention such features BMW implemented into their tranny such as hill assist (for slower drivers, pull the left paddle towards you and the car will plant itself on an incline to allow for transition between gas and brake), a burnout mode, and a launch mode, which eliminates all wheel spin (perfect F1 style starts everytime)

is it any question why BMWs SMG II is the best manual based semi-automatic tranny out there? if so, please ask . . .

oh, one more thing i forgot to mention, the option for the inferior F1 style tranny on a Ferrari is close to $10k, BMWs SMG II is $2400

[NISSANSPDR]

Cool

(all I can say)

[BMW-Hamann]

Originally posted by BlOOe46


we are talking manual based semi-automatic trannys here, not whose F1 team is better, that is an entirely different argument

i first countered ur statement that ferrari F1's manual based semi-automatic tranny was the best by saying BMW's SMG II was the best, and i stick by my statement (so do many automotive journalists, if u ever bother to check comparisons)

whether u are talking refinement or performance, BMW's SMG II beats Ferrari's F1 tranny . . . lets look at performance first, shall we?

ferrari F1 takes .15 seconds to upshift, while BMW SMG II takes .08 seconds to upshift (were talking both in sport modes, sport position and S6, respectively)
as we can see here, both trannys in sport mode, SMG II upshifts 2x faster then Ferrari's F1

what about refinement?
Ferrari has what . . . 3 different modes? (full auto, sport position, semi-auto) while the BMW has 5 different automatic modes A1-A5, and 6 different sport modes S1-S6
not to mention such features BMW implemented into their tranny such as hill assist (for slower drivers, pull the left paddle towards you and the car will plant itself on an incline to allow for transition between gas and brake), a burnout mode, and a launch mode, which eliminates all wheel spin (perfect F1 style starts everytime)

is it any question why BMWs SMG II is the best manual based semi-automatic tranny out there? if so, please ask . . .

oh, one more thing i forgot to mention, the option for the inferior F1 style tranny on a Ferrari is close to $10k, BMWs SMG II is $2400

impresive ... BLOOe46
Do u use SMG on ur BMW? in my place, the BMW dealer never offer us SMG option ...

[BlOOe46]

nah . . . *sigh* had to get the tiptronic for the old lady in the house

but they do have an SMG retrofit for non-m3 e46s . . . but i would never think of putting money into the car . . . really just not a good investment IMO

[BMW-Hamann]

Originally posted by BlOOe46
nah . . . *sigh* had to get the tiptronic for the old lady in the house

but they do have an SMG retrofit for non-m3 e46s . . . but i would never think of putting money into the car . . . really just not a good investment IMO

oh .. ok ..

yes I heard about it ... just the local dealer here to lazy i think ... ...

[crayzayjay]

Originally posted by NISSANSPDR

you MUST have seen Ferrari win at F1...if BMW was so great....why arent they winning at F1?

LOL

Case closed.

What a stupid, stupid, stupid argument. BMW have only been in F1 for a few years now and it's well known that the Williams team is letting the joint venture down, as admitted by Williams themselves. BMW has more than kept its part of the deal, having the most powerful engine in all of F1 in only their second year in the sport.

If you have nothing intelligent to say, say nothing at all

[crayzayjay]

Originally posted by BMW-Hamann
Which is your favorite car for weekends that can give you enjoyment at driving and owning without too much burden your pocket for maintaining it? ..

The Ferrari will be hidesously expensive to maintain, but you'd be in possession of the most beautiful "small Ferrari" in recent history, or as some think (me included), ever.

Of all the cars you listed the 355 and 996C4S will give you the most driving enjoyment (by far), and the 911 is the better drive, though it doesnt sound as good (the sports exhaust makes it sound nice but not quite 355-nice). However, to echo someone's previous post, i'd go for a 993 twin-turbo, it has no stability issues , incredible dry/wet weather performance, much better looking than the 996TT, and is reasonable to maintain. Awesome car



This thing flies

[BMW-Hamann]

Originally posted by crayzayjay


The Ferrari will be hidesously expensive to maintain, but you'd be in possession of the most beautiful "small Ferrari" in recent history, or as some think (me included), ever.

Of all the cars you listed the 355 and 996C4S will give you the most driving enjoyment (by far), and the 911 is the better drive, though it doesnt sound as good (the sports exhaust makes it sound nice but not quite 355-nice). However, to echo someone's previous post, i'd go for a 993 twin-turbo, it has no stability issues , incredible dry/wet weather performance, much better looking than the 996TT, and is reasonable to maintain. Awesome car



This thing flies

hello cray .. thank u for coming by

I am agree with u ... I like the 355 model more than the 360 .. but like u said .. the maintenance cost really haunted me ... I better spend big number once than buy something that keep burdening me all the time ..

great info from u ... still difficult to decide ... .. I'll try to check the 993 TT when it available in here.

[BlOOe46]

Originally posted by BMW-Hamann


oh .. ok ..

yes I heard about it ... just the local dealer here to lazy i think ... ...

if u are seriously considering this option, and want to shift a tiptronic with SMG paddles . . . (BMW dealers dont carry this)

this guy on e46fanatics.com specializes in those kits, he has SMG tiptronic retrofits for any car thats an automatic which uses tiptronic (mostly any BMW) . . . just look around the board or ask someone, i dont think the kit is all to expensive either

[crayzayjay]

No prob Hamann, thats what we're here for

Good luck making your decision, and good luck finding your "chosen one"

Let us know