Is it worth it?????

[SleeperCivic]

Originally posted by B16EJ1
But yeah you're right chips do nothing and you don't need a VAFC to tune your chipped ecu.

I didn't say that, I'm saying they're not worth in on a stock motor with no mods. Period.

[B16EJ1]

Originally posted by edman24
not to be mean or anything but youre all wrong. a vtec controller does not add any hp in an untuned motor and will not help in a chipped ecu situation either.
hope this helped

Yah I know you didn't say that. This the point I was argueing in the first place and your link proved that wrong. I don't know why you even chimed in with your whole turbo and blu box thing. But hey thanks for confusing everything throwing your worthless .02 in.

[edman24]

yah that note you posted stated that if you had ALL those parts then it would allow great adjustability for tuning. i said if you just have a chip, or just a stock motor, then it wont do anything. that is what i believe and to tell you the truth, im right. if your dumbass went out and got a tuning chip when you had no other tuning done to your car then whose fault is that? learn to do things in proper order and maybe youll understand what im talking about. tune your engine first, then change the crossover point. make your car actually need the extra fuel from that program by bolt ons or other methods, then richen up your maps. see? youre so stuck in your own ways that you wont even listen to reason. sleeper made a few very valid points and all you did is take what he said and interpret it into something to prove what you said. do your own research and bring it to the table yourself. dont allow others to do the work for you then put your name on it. thats something we call plagiarism

[B16EJ1]

Originally posted by edman24
a vtec controller does not add any hp in an untuned motor and will not help in a chipped ecu situation either

You're an idiot. Your previous statement was proved wrong by a guy who did'nt know what the argument was about and tried to help you bash me but instead proved you wrong and made you look like a fool. You can assume that I put a chip on a stock motor. I don't really give a damn about what you think you know about MY car. Oh and why would I need to do research when I have fools like you to do it for me? :evillaugh

[edman24]

youre such a fool. the fact that you think a vtec controller could help with an engine that just has a chip on it proves youre an idiot. because you seem like youre stupid enough to put a chip on a stock motor and say hey guys look at me, im running rich as hell, im a racer!!! you should not have to correct your stupidity with a vtec controller because thats not what it was designed for. its for people who know what they are doing. and how did sleeper prove me wrong? show me where he did that? oh im sorry youre too stu-stu-stupid to look things up on your own. because you have a b16 in an EG civic you think you know everything. if you knew half of what i do about cars youd learn to realize someone is smarter then you and shut your mouth instead of arguing your point when you know youre wrong. you fucked up on your car, dont tell others to make the same mistake.

oh and about doing your own research, maybe youre just too dumb to know where to look. and tell me how does me doing my own research make me a fool? think about that one :finger:

[SleeperCivic]

B16EJ1 = FUCKING STUPID BIATCH!! Ha ha ha ha ha!

(I couldn't resist.....)

[B16EJ1]

Originally posted by SleeperCivic
MY MOM = FUCKING STUPID BIATCH!! Ha ha ha ha ha!

(I couldn't resist.....)

Neither could I

[B16EJ1]

Originally posted by edman24
a vtec controller does not add any hp in an untuned motor and will not help in a chipped ecu situation either. the point of the vtec controler is to change the vtec crossover point.
hope this helped

Alright this the last time I am going to explain this to you two retards. That is what you posted. This is what Sleepinfaggot's link says....

A VTEC/Fuel Controller, Adjustable cam gears and Adjustable fuel pressure regulators are not required but will greatly improve the flexiability in tunning and increase the potiential for power gains.

If you two dumbasses can't put two and two together I'm not surprised.
I'm not in the business of educating amateurs and I should be charging your stupid asses. I'm done.

[edman24]

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[B16EJ1]

Originally posted by edman24
IM-A-RETARD

[edman24]

do you ever come up with your own material? damn what a loser.

[B16EJ1]

Originally posted by edman24
do I ever come up with my own material? damn I'm a loser.