new fuel pump/has power but doesnt turn on

[tblake]

Originally Posted by BNaylor

And who gave the suggestion on an inertia switch? Speak up and please explain.


FORD - Found On Road Dead.


BTW - The problem is we have people giving their two cents worth on models (i.e. Grand Prix) they know nothing about or probably never owned let alone ever worked on one.

I'd say the 5 letter word starting with a "T" but I'll save that for a PM.

Bob, tblake is 6 letters.

I was going to say something, but I've never worked on 04+ GP's so they may as well have a nuclear reactor under their hood for all I know.

[BNaylor]

Originally Posted by tblake

Bob, tblake is 6 letters.

You're intelligent Tim. You can figure it out or send me a PM and I'll explain. Only a few words start with a "T" when it comes to Moderating.

Originally Posted by tblake

I was going to say something, but I've never worked on 04+ GP's so they may as well have a nuclear reactor under their hood for all I know.

The '04 and up wiring is the basically the same for the fuel pump circuitry compared to '97-'03. I've doubled checked the Helm GM FSM at least for '08 GPs with the LS4 and NA SIII 3800 engines and no changes. Definitely no inertia switch in the circuits. And still ECU/PCM controlled. It is not a difficult circuit to troubleshoot. A digital multimeter comes in handy.

The major change is to the fuel pressure and return supply system. On '97-'03 we had both. Now for '04 and up there is only a pressure feed and no return to the fuel pump assembly. And no owner replaceable fuel filter. It is in the gas tank. Also, the gas tank has to be dropped to replace the fuel pump. There is no access cover from the trunk.

[rkvons]

Originally Posted by BNaylor

FORD - Found On Road Dead.

Freakin' Old Rebuilt Dodge

[Scrapper]

Originally Posted by rkvons

Freakin' Old Rebuilt Dodge

no first on race day.........my dad calls a dodge a waren out ford. and i got a s/10 and a dodge d/150 138000 and runs like a charm. don't get me wrong i'd have a ranger if i could pick the it would be a ranger. the moters in a ford car to me there junk.

FIRST ON RACE DAY...........

[tblake]

Don't you mean Fourth On Race Day?

My favorite is

Fxxked Over Rebuilt Dodge

But Ford's arent bad. Just some of the designs they come out with are not the smartest. IE take the back seat out to gain access to the top of the strut mount bolts on the 2000's Taurus. Just stupid. After I am all greasy from working out the bottom of the strut, the last thing I want to do is jump into Grandpa's back seat. But whatever.

On the plus side, they are the only manufacturer out of the BIG 3 that didn't need a government bailout. Comforting thought that GM now stands for Government Motors.

[tblake]

And call me stupid, I still can't think of the 5 letter word that starts with a "T" that Bob is referring to. LOL!

[BNaylor]

My favorite is: Fix Or Repair Daily

I'd say the one with the "F" word but we have the religious police watching over us. Tim knows all about that.

[Scrapper]

Originally Posted by tblake

Don't you mean Fourth On Race Day?

My favorite is

Fxxked Over Rebuilt Dodge

But Ford's arent bad. Just some of the designs they come out with are not the smartest. IE take the back seat out to gain access to the top of the strut mount bolts on the 2000's Taurus. Just stupid. After I am all greasy from working out the bottom of the strut, the last thing I want to do is jump into Grandpa's back seat. But whatever.

On the plus side, they are the only manufacturer out of the BIG 3 that didn't need a government bailout. Comforting thought that GM now stands for Government Motors.

you got me there never heard that one before. i do like the older chevey's like my 79 malibu it's got the 229/v6 in it and when i call for parts for a 79 and they say don't see it in 229 it's a 80 moter then they went to the 231 buick.

[tblake]

Originally Posted by BNaylor

My favorite is: Fix Or Repair Daily

I'd say the one with the "F" word but we have the religious police watching over us. Tim knows all about that.

HAHA!!!!! I know, I'm just a little devil "on a highway to hell"

I suppose he doesn't listen to AC/DC since they put that song out.

Lets see what he says to that!!!!

I give it 5 hours befor your inbox gets filled Bob, sorry.

[tblake]

Originally Posted by Scrapper

you got me there never heard that one before. i do like the older chevey's like my 79 malibu it's got the 229/v6 in it and when i call for parts for a 79 and they say don't see it in 229 it's a 80 moter then they went to the 231 buick.

And we all know what became of the buick 231.....

[ecartman]

Originally Posted by BNaylor

You're intelligent Tim. You can figure it out or send me a PM and I'll explain. Only a few words start with a "T" when it comes to Moderating.




The '04 and up wiring is the basically the same for the fuel pump circuitry compared to '97-'03. I've doubled checked the Helm GM FSM at least for '08 GPs with the LS4 and NA SIII 3800 engines and no changes. Definitely no inertia switch in the circuits. And still ECU/PCM controlled. It is not a difficult circuit to troubleshoot. A digital multimeter comes in handy.

The major change is to the fuel pressure and return supply system. On '97-'03 we had both. Now for '04 and up there is only a pressure feed and no return to the fuel pump assembly. And no owner replaceable fuel filter. It is in the gas tank. Also, the gas tank has to be dropped to replace the fuel pump. There is no access cover from the trunk.

All of the '04 models I've worked on including my own have a replaceable fuel filter (AC#GF872) in the same location as the 97-03 models. They also have a fuel pump access cover in the trunk. The '05 and up models do not have an access cover or a replaceable fuel filter. Over the years I've found several parts on the 2004 model to be one year only items.