Dems seek end of free speech?!?

[BNaylor]

Originally Posted by drunken monkey

Carville censored himself.

Did he really?

DM, Carville probably did this because his old lady was beating down on him or threatening to kick his rear end. In case you did not know Carville is married to Republican pundit and staunch conservative Mary Matalin. From what I've seen she probably wears the pants in the family.

Just another entertainer like Limbaugh.

[thegladhatter]

Whether he sensored himself or not...the sentiment was there. He did NOT want GWB to succeed. He was not alone. Liberals were on GWB's ass for 8 years. They nearly wet themselves every time there was a hiccup. How were they any different than Rush? The difference is that the Dems want to deflect attention away from anything negative about their messiah, BHO. Who, BTW, has an approval rating LOWER than GWB's was at this point in his administration.

[BNaylor]

As we all know you have to take polls with a grain of salt. ..... However, this is interesting based on a wide variety of polls past and recent with Obama in office. According to the polls the country was headed in the wrong direction under Bush and now even under Obama.


http://www.pollingreport.com/right.htm

[kris]

Originally Posted by BNaylor

As we all know you have to take polls with a grain of salt. ..... However, this is interesting based on a wide variety of polls past and recent with Obama in office. According to the polls the country was headed in the wrong direction under Bush and now even under Obama.


http://www.pollingreport.com/right.htm

Seems that the number trends are pretty much the same regardless of the time they were taken, unless you take into account something significant happening.

[03cavPA]

http://www.pennlive.com/newsflash/in...ist=topstories


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,509258,00.html

School: Student Can't Wear Obama Mask at Talent Show

Saturday, March 14, 2009
The Associated Press

PORTLAND, Ore. — An elementary school principal is barring a fifth-grader from wearing a Barack Obama mask in the school's talent show because parents have complained it's inappropriate.

Dru Lechert-Kelly, 11, hoped to dress presidentially and dance to a YouTube parody that features an Obama look-alike and a rap called "I Can Do Whatever I Like."

The skit features him in a navy blue suit, white shirt, red tie, black shoes and an Obama mask purchased at a costume shop — one like Obama himself once donned for a Saturday Night Live sketch. The choreographed routine rehearsed Thursday ends with Dru on the floor in the splits and was met with applause from students and teachers.

But some parents objected.

"I talked to the parents who are coordinating the talent show, and they feel it's inappropriate and potentially offensive," said Steve Powell, principal of Llewellyn Elementary School in Portland.

He declined to say specifically why it might be offensive. Dru's parents, Scott Lechert and Paul Kelly, suggest it's race.

"There was obviously no intent to harm here or really any possibility of offending anyone," Kelly said.

Dru said he didn't think performing without the mask was an option.

"If I don't have the mask," he said, "it's just some kid up there dancing around."

Discuss.

[thegladhatter]

Originally Posted by BNaylor

According to the polls the country was headed in the wrong direction under Bush and now even under Obama.

The major difference being that the liberal media has more difficulty spinning in the other direction. When GWB was in the Whitehouse the spin was all negative. Now it's much more "wait and see".

[thegladhatter]

"There was obviously no intent to harm here or really any possibility of offending anyone," Kelly said.

Dru said he didn't think performing without the mask was an option.

"If I don't have the mask," he said, "it's just some kid up there dancing around."

With the election to the highest position in the world of a black man....the race card should be moot. The liberal PC crap is nuts.

I recall kids getting sent home from school during the election for where anti-BHO tshirts to school. Schools are so afraid of offending people it just isn't believable anymore.

[drunken monkey]

you don't think there is a difference in the situations of your country and the world when GWB first took office and when BHO took office? Or perhaps you are conveniently ignoring that one of them took your country down a questionable path and the other is having to deal with being is a questionable position.
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[03cavPA]

FWIW, we'd probably have less of a problem with BO and his gang if they weren't quite so hypocritical. BO has done some things to place himself and his administration in a questionable position.

He took office with the promise of "change" and transparency. How many of his nominees for cabinet and high gov't. office have been found to be tax cheats? He criticized McCain for numerous positions during the campaign, and he now backs or supports some of the very same things he criticized McCain for.

His Speaker of the House thinks she's the Queen of the Universe and their concept of bipartisanship is that you have to agree with the Democratic line. His administration criticizes corporate execs for pay raises and bonuses while congress still gets pay raises and generous increases in their petty cash fund while spending money like a bunch of stoned out crackheads.

His administration wants to rein in free speech (topic of this thread) and that seems to be the only way they can dialogue. You don't like Rush and what he says? Fine, then meet him head-on and talk it out. Don't carry on like a little butt-hurt biatch every time he says something you don't like. They're in the hot seat now; criticism goes with the job. Don't sling it if you can't handle it.

Change? The only change I see in DC is the faces. Obama is a charlatan, like many before him. I don't see a lot of difference.

BTW, I am not a registered Republican and I disagreed with quite a few things the Bush administration did. One does not have to be a GWB fanboy to see how lame this "new" administration is.

[thegladhatter]

Originally Posted by drunken monkey

Or perhaps you are conveniently ignoring that one of them took your country down a questionable path and the other is having to deal with being is a questionable position.

We were taken down that path by a Congress that was out of control and a House under Princess Pelosi and those of her ilk.

[thegladhatter]

Originally Posted by 03cavPA

FWIW, ... ...is.

Well put!

[kris]

Originally Posted by bagwanshrirashnish

We were taken down that path by a Congress that was out of control and a House under Princess Pelosi and those of her ilk.

So you're saying GWB was just merely a puppet?

[thegladhatter]

Originally Posted by kris

So you're saying GWB was just merely a puppet?

No. What I'm saying is that a lot of the blame goes elsewhere. Pelosi, Frank, and others were saying Fanny Mae and Freddie Mack were just fine. McCain and Bush were saying otherwise. Look what happened. The Democrats were in control....disaster resulted. Now there are NO checks and balances at all. We are in for a really bumpy ride.

[drunken monkey]

my point is, the reasons for people being anti bush back then and reasons why people are anti obama now are different and you can't compare the two and claim it to be a double standard.

to do so is quite simply, being ignorant and short sighted.

Saying that the Democrats want end of free speech is also pointless ever since good old Republican Presidential candidate McCain and his buddy came up with the McCain/Feingold/Cochran bill that imposes a limit on certain (political) advertising.

[03cavPA]

I found an interesting perspective on the merits (or lack thereof) of the "fairness" doctrine.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/...e_at_work.html

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Liberals often seemed perplexed by the success of conservatives in talk radio and the abject failure of liberal talk radio (see Air America, Jim Hightower, Ed Schultz, etc.), another example of how their belief in government regulation blinds them to the way the free market operates. It's the law of supply and demand. Liberals have long had multiple media outlets to turn to: government-supported PBS and NPR, the broadcast networks, the newsweeklies, the Times and the Post, and the rest of the legacy media.

Conservative talk radio has been successful, i.e. profitable--and liberal talk radio has not--because of the most basic of reasons: it supplied a market demand that was otherwise unmet. Listeners turn to conservative talk shows to meet that need. Listeners mean ratings. Ratings mean advertising revenues.

The success of Rush and other conservative talk radio hosts, and the failure of liberals to achieve similar success, is the underlying motivation behind Democrats' efforts to re-impose the Fairness Doctrine. Among those who have spoken up for the position are Senators John Kerry and Dick Durbin and Representatives John Dingell, Dennis Kucinich, and Louise Slaughter.

According to Accuracy In Media Editor Cliff Kincaid, with Democrats in control of both the White House and Congress, a Democratic-appointed F.C.C. could easily re-impose the Fairness Doctrine. "This may be what is planned," he told the Cybercast News Service .

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Forced to provide equal time to liberal hosts -- an enterprise that has proved financially inviable time after time -- broadcasters would soon have to increase the advertising rates for conservative programs to compensate for the liberal shows drain in ratings and advertising or to pull the plug on both, silencing some of the most prominent and influential voices on the right.

But then, maybe that's what the Democrats supporting the Fairness Doctrine are really after.

I still submit it's just a thinly veiled way to silence conservative talk radio. They know liberal talk shows can't compete on equal footing, because listeners don't support them.