Hydrogen gas???

[silicon212]

Originally Posted by PeteA216

I believe with the fuel saver engines that switch from 8 to 4 cylinders, they simply just shut off four of the injectors so those four cylinders just suck in air.

Me and my crazy ideas, I actually though of designing an intake manifold for older engines that has some throttle blade style valves on select intake ports either cable or electric solenoid operated so if the owner wanted to they could "shut off" some of the cylinders for better mileage.

I believe those engines also hold the exhaust valve open a bit so that compression on a dead cylinder won't kill performance.

They've tried something like what you propose back in the late 70s - it was called the 'V8-6-4" engine and was used in one or two Cadillac models - it was a gargantuan flop, due to technical reasons.

['97ventureowner]

Originally Posted by silicon212

I believe those engines also hold the exhaust valve open a bit so that compression on a dead cylinder won't kill performance.

They've tried something like what you propose back in the late 70s - it was called the 'V8-6-4" engine and was used in one or two Cadillac models - it was a gargantuan flop, due to technical reasons.

I remember those V8-6-4s. I was going to mention something about that and the furor it created back then. I think this newer technology has an uphill battle to gain support of those who remember those dark times. But maybe, given the present situation with the price of gas and calls for better fuel economy, the ideas might have a better chance of winning support amongst the general population. We have better technologies and "know how" than the '70s , so it is presumptive that this may work this time around.

[PeteA216]

What exactly went wrong with them back then? The fireless compression killing performance? See I was thinking shutting the port off completely so if the cylinder doesn't suck in air, then there will be no compression for the engine to battle. But then again the "off" cylinders would have to fight the massive vacuum.

[mike561]

You know what would be interesting to see, is an older car like ours (a box caprice would be cool) with a hybrid engine, then we could finally afford to drive them again. i wonder how the outcome of that would be though

[bhw33191]

Originally Posted by mike561

You know what would be interesting to see, is an older car like ours (a box caprice would be cool) with a hybrid engine, then we could finally afford to drive them again. i wonder how the outcome of that would be though

I was just thinking about that today too! I mean, as we know, these trunks are gargantuan and theres plenty of room for a hybrid battery pack. And chevy recently came out with the hybrid tahoe too, so if an electric motor can move an SUV like that then it'll have no problem moving the caprice. Although you might have to upgrade the "spongebob suspension" as i call it, to cope with the battery wieght.

*only problem is figuring out how to sync both gas and electric to work together. maybe you'd be able to get a hybrid computer and integrate that into the car somehow. you'd also have to do something with the brakes because i know these new hybrids do this thing where they use the wasted energy from braking and in turn use that energy to charge the batteries, unless the alternater could handle that, who knows.

[mike561]

If thats the case it seems like it just be better to get a car thats already a hybrid lol

[beat88ls]

Originally Posted by bhw33191

Yeah it must be ford, i've never seen this on any other make. I know the old 60's international scouts (ford related for those who don't know) had dual gas tanks on both sides of the vehicles right behind the front seats (sounds like a suicide bomber truck).

nope... i had an 86 silverado with the 4.3L v6 4bbl carb and it had dual 15 gallon tanks. when i got it the rear tank leaked so i just kept it switched to the front