Coil over conversion ?'s

[xoc]

The Tacoma uses a true spring around a shock, not a Mac Strut.

[an1malch1n]

No this will be a ton cheaper. I've been quoted on a SAS for 6000+ and that's low balling it. That's with all parts and labor. I.e. Dana 44 from Bronco 76,77, steering conversion, brake conversoin, lug conversion, hub conversion. R&P, ARB airlocker, Custom springs by sway away,and this is just the tip of the ice berg.

The TM lift will provide the space necessary for the coil-overs.

The upper shock mount can be retro fitted with a shock hoop=strong enough to withstand the new spring.= not that expensive to fab up.

The LCA is strong enough. Ongoing debate over at 4x4 board. Think of all the stress that is put on with the t-bar at the corner of your LCA. The LCA will stay in place and a big beeffy shock mount welded in place of current location of shock mount.

I can get by without fabbing up a new UCA if this gets too pricey, but it would be nice to eliminated the upper ball joints altogether.

I'm willing to bet I can get all this done for under $1500, just by talking to a few shops already. Again I know I won't come up with ANY wheel travel. The only way anybody is going to come up with any extra travel is one of 2 ways or both. Lower profile bumpstops=stupid IMO and/or a complete porche 930 CV custom replacement=big big bucks.

[Matt Peckham]

a guy I met this weekend is doing an SAS on his Hardbody. he said it will run about 4000, a bit less, in the end.

I can see if I can get some more info from him.

Matt

[devinchi]

Hello,

I am the guy Matt was talking about.

an1malch1n, you shold know me from 4x4parts BBS.

I am going insanely whole hog on my '95 XE KC. I am doing a dual axle swap along with coils spring/4 bar linkages. once I get it all built I will convert it to a height adjustable air over coil system.

To be quite honest, if you have some fabrication skills, and the ambition (the really hard part) you can do a leaf spring axle swap for ~$1000. for a coil system aka. the Early Bronco (Frankenfinder) you can look at $1500+

Mine is WAY up there with lots of wacky parts, and lots of fabrication. I am doing it all myself and have searched long and hard to find all of my parts.

Here is my overview so far:

Front D44 $300 From a Jeep Wagoneer so it is 6 bolt to begin with!
Rear Toy 8" $15 I have a few GOOD friends
Jeep TJ linkages $100
Gears 2@$200
Driveshafts 2@$250
Coil Springs (various sources) $250
Steel for Fabrication $200
New brake parts $150
New Shocks $300
2nd t-case $free Good buddy
mini driveshaft for 2nd case $100

So I am at $2315 in just parts.....

But when I finish (another many months and LOTS of money) I will have a truck that can adjust it's height 5" run 35" swampers and ramp ~1000 on a 30 deg ramp.


I personally wouldn't drop the money into the coil overs unless you intend on keeping the IFS forever.

[an1malch1n]

Hey divinchi I recognize you alright.

Coming here to rain on my parade are you

Hey If you could get duplicate parts for me for the same price I could definatley pony up the money for that. No sweat, then save up for labor.
I basically quoted the "Frankenfinder" setup to some fab shops and the 6000+ number kept coming up. Actually that was the cheapest I could find.

BTW my welding = the strengh of duct tape. It will probably hold long enough to get you home but that's it

Are you just going to a bone yard and ripping out the pathy 4 bar or are you going to do a total custom?

I definatley want the adjustable coils, if your going to do it might as well do it right. It would be nice to control rebound, compression, damping, and height but that is going to be a few dollars.

The reason I was going to go with the Bronco because I was told you can get it in a Heavy Duty. Meaning 35 splines and beefier knuckles/bearing and so forth.

I don't know much about the wagoneer D44 so if you want to PM or email me and let me know the low down I would appreciate it.

I don't want to do leaf springs. I definatley would like coils on all 4 corners but until then I'm just getting creative till I can have enough cash for what I really want. You can blame XTC for all this, he's the one that got the hamster turning the wheel in my head.

But alas I'm back to square one. Hey if this looks to be fairly simple and cheap (coil-overs) then somebody has to pave the way right???

[devinchi]

Personally I would save your money and not go coil over, as you dont gain anything.

Join a local club, I happen to be an active member in a Jeep club (no I don't own a jeep) Even if I didn't have the necessary fabrication skills there are quite a fewin my club that do, and they would be more than willing to help me out. This once again proves the old addage.....It isn't what you know, but who you know!! (and how much beer you can buy to pay them!!)


I am going to be running a full custom suspension. If I had the $$$ I would have bought the suspension pieces from a Range Rover(my daily driver) or Defender, but since I could get the Jeep TJ linkages cheap, I decided to go with them instead. I will just re-build them as necessary. The finished suspension willl be more like the Range Rover than anything else.