viper vs veyron

[youngvr4]

Originally Posted by Muscletang

Would a GT Mustang be able to do all of this if it had 1000 hp? No. It wasn't designed for this.

The Viper was not made to try to set the world speed challenge.

niether was the c4 corvette, but it did it with 880hp

[aznxthuggie]

i'd probably pick the veyron, it was made to handle those speeds

[youngvr4]

that i agree with, it is def made to HANDLE those speeds. weight helps a hell of alot

[k3smostwanted]

Originally Posted by youngvr4

that i agree with, it is def made to HANDLE those speeds. weight helps a hell of alot

yes it does...by alot. most cars made for speeds usually weigh a little more to prevent lift.

ya know one thing that i have thought about with this particular comparison is the fact that AWD is known to take away from top speed due to significant drivetrain loss coming into play.

this makes me wonder which car could actually reach a higher top speed. we probably all know that any of us would rather place your life in the hands of the Veyron due to its long time engineering to be a safe as possible at those speeds but that doesnt mean the Viper could not out peg it on the salt flats. it makes me wonder at what speed, outside weather being a controlled variable, the viper will fly at.

there is also alot more to aerodynamics than drag coefficience. when talking those speeds the amount of downforce created is just a big of piece of information as drag coefficience.

[youngvr4]

i love you k3, you always make the conversation interesting

you see exactly were i'm coming from, its something i'd pay money to see
viper and veyron from 60mph to 220mph

it be interesting to see.

i've also learned about the awd drivetrain loss bieng a misconception

whp is whp, no matter how its bieng used. bhp would be diff, awd usaully has a lower whp from bhp than a rwd or a fwd

but whp is whp, its all bieng delivered.

so the awd isnt doing any slowing down as of what i know.
we've had this discussion between me, redneck,tatt and some others.

i personally think that stabalism and aero is more important once you get so high in speed. but weight is not completly counted out, especially 735lbs

[k3smostwanted]

Originally Posted by youngvr4

i love you k3, you always make the conversation interesting

you see exactly were i'm coming from, its something i'd pay money to see
viper and veyron from 60mph to 220mph

it be interesting to see.

i've also learned about the awd drivetrain loss bieng a misconception

whp is whp, no matter how its bieng used. bhp would be diff, awd usaully has a lower whp from bhp than a rwd or a fwd

but whp is whp, its all bieng delivered.

so the awd isnt doing any slowing down as of what i know.
we've had this discussion between me, redneck,tatt and some others.

i personally think that stabalism and aero is more important once you get so high in speed. but weight is not completly counted out, especially 735lbs

the more a car weighs, the more power it takes to keep it going at those speeds. which would make one think that the viper would have the advantage in more than one reason at higher speeds.

but then again, the veyron also has a couple advantages itself.

Viper Advantages:
both cars produce similar power, number wise. this is why i brought up the AWD factor. if a car with AWD produces 1000fhp and a RWD car produces 1000fhp, the RWD car is going to have the advantage once at speed beings it will be creating more power at the wheels. this would give the Viper the advantage once breaking loose doesnt become an issue. the viper also weighs significantly less so getting the Viper moving faster would be easier even if whp was the same.

Veyron Advantages:
now just because the Viper is lighter and can, in laments terms, keeps its speed better and the lighter weight making it easier to create more speed, doesnt mean that this is a full advantage. being of lighter weight, would mean it will take more force to get it to stick to the road and not going airborne. this is where the veyron comes into play, we know that the veyron can maintain speed and reach these types of speed without the worry of lift due to its weight and aerodynamics. how big of a role do these play, is the question? also, lets talk gearing...i believe the Veyron has a 7 speed transmission in it compared to the 6 speed Viper. at what speed will the Viper's gearing run out? i would assume that the Veyron's gearing would be better suited for top speed beings it's design has top speed in mind.

my honest opinion is that the Viper out matches the Veyron in top-speed if, and only if, it can stay on the ground at those speeds and its gearing does not run out. if it can stay on the ground at 250mph+ and it can even get to those speeds with its gearing, i would say that the Viper will man handle the Veyron up top.

[blakscorpion21]

the extra weight will be more of a burden on the takeoff. once you get all that weight moving you get some nice momentum going. the veyrons awd system takes care of launches and its aero takes care of high speeds.