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[neatofrito1618]

Originally Posted by TheStang00

... hes saying a flash tune in general is a generic tune, compaired to a dyno tune done by a professional.

flashers are tuned by professionals

[TheStang00]

Originally Posted by neatofrito1618

flashers are tuned by professionals

without a dyno...

[01L2Cobra]

Originally Posted by neatofrito1618

are you saying SCT is a genaric brand?

I‘m saying that any tune that comes direct from the manufacturer preinstalled (even from Ford) is a generic tune. Some of them have to cover way too many cars varying from the V6 to the 4.6 DOHC. This is the cause for the tune not to be dead nuts for any level of car let alone one particular car. Even those made for one particular line of cars like the 03/04 Cobras are not accurate. Have you ever heard of factory freaks? They exist and my old 02 GT was one with around 262tq to the wheels with just a catback and K&N drop in. These cars are also taken in account for when all of the data is compiled for the generic tune. There are just too many variables ranging from the initial build to local weather for them to accurately produce a tune that is perfect for every car.

Even doing these ones where you send them a list of mods and what ever else isn’t what I would call a professional tune. Humidity, elevation, and air temps are huge factors when it comes to tuning a car. This is what has caused problems including blown engines due to companies like runningwiththedevil.com (which is now out of business or at lest their site is gone) producing tunes that do not accurately take those variables into consideration.

[neatofrito1618]

Originally Posted by 01L2Cobra

Even doing these ones where you send them a list of mods and what ever else isn’t what I would call a professional tune. Humidity, elevation, and air temps are huge factors when it comes to tuning a car. This is what has caused problems including blown engines due to companies like runningwiththedevil.com (which is now out of business or at lest their site is gone) producing tunes that do not accurately take those variables into consideration.

i consiter that a professional tune when a professional tunes your car based on what mods you have. they also tune your shift points in auto's and make your car shift harder/faster.

[01L2Cobra]

Originally Posted by neatofrito1618

i consiter that a professional tune when a professional tunes your car based on what mods you have. they also tune your shift points in auto's and make your car shift harder/faster.

It’s not a professional tune since they don’t have your car strapped to a dyno to see its unique characteristics. Like I said every car starts out different and since they start out different the way in which they react to the mods are different. Also getting a tune like that from say a company in the NE while living in the SW doesn’t make it accurately designed to your car since the elevation and temp changes are vastly different and aren’t accurately accounted for as they should be.

[neatofrito1618]

Originally Posted by 01L2Cobra

It’s not a professional tune since they don’t have your car strapped to a dyno to see its unique characteristics. Like I said every car starts out different and since they start out different the way in which they react to the mods are different. Also getting a tune like that from say a company in the NE while living in the SW doesn’t make it accurately designed to your car since the elevation and temp changes are vastly different and aren’t accurately accounted for as they should be.

but a car without major engine work will still benefit more from a flasher then a dynotune

[BlackGT2000]

Originally Posted by neatofrito1618

but a car without major engine work will still benefit more from a flasher then a dynotune

A stock vehical may benefit more from a flasher than no flasher but a dyno tune would still be prefered.

[01L2Cobra]

Originally Posted by BlackGT2000

A stock vehical may benefit more from a flasher than no flasher but a dyno tune would still be prefered.

Exactly!!!

Someone who has years of experience tuning cars on a dyno in your area will always be able to find more Hp even in a stock car than someone in an office who knows how far away.

[neatofrito1618]

but all a dyno tune is is a really good tune. a flasher is a alright tune but they can do things like make your car run richer, make your car take in more air, remove your governers, make your car send more fuel to your injectors, and a lot more things. all a dyno tune is is a tune based on what your powercurves are(witch is a lot better then a tune with a flasher) but flashers have a lot more options then dyno tunes do

[01L2Cobra]

A dyno tune can do all of those things as well even over righting the TCS just like a flasher can. There are only 2 real differences between them.

1. With a dyno tune you have someone there who knows exactly what your cars unique characteristics are and not someone in an office someplace basing the tune off of compiled data from several cars.

2. The flasher you can take with you and adjust it when needed however the adjustments are far from being accurate with out the aid of a dyno and running the AFR.


Just to show how inaccurate a flasher is have you ever taken a look at the increments in the gear ratio adjustment of the Pred.? Lets put it this way I know several people who have to deal with a speedo that’s off because the Pred. isn’t setup for that gear ratio.

[04GTmustang]

Do you guys think that this idling will damage the motor like i said it only does it for mayb 30 seconds then clears up and its fine. i also dont hear any pinging either when i drive it. everything else about the tune is good except for the cold start idle.

[neatofrito1618]

Originally Posted by 01L2Cobra

A dyno tune can do all of those things as well even over righting the TCS just like a flasher can. There are only 2 real differences between them.

1. With a dyno tune you have someone there who knows exactly what your cars unique characteristics are and not someone in an office someplace basing the tune off of compiled data from several cars.

2. The flasher you can take with you and adjust it when needed however the adjustments are far from being accurate with out the aid of a dyno and running the AFR.


Just to show how inaccurate a flasher is have you ever taken a look at the increments in the gear ratio adjustment of the Pred.? Lets put it this way I know several people who have to deal with a speedo that’s off because the Pred. isn’t setup for that gear ratio.

the pred and the xcal2 are different. SCT has a lot more options. SCT accuratly recalobrates you speedo when you get new gears