Emergency!! Please Help! Im Begging!

[Taz480]

Originally Posted by coalminer

The washer I used was only about 1\16th of an inch think, the thing was that the new sensor was too close to the flywheel to sense it correctly, so it would run, but very poorly, it would sputter and die at random, but then sometimes it would run just fine. Since we put that spacer, not had any problems at all with it.

I wouldnt think the voyager 3.3 would be much different that the intrepid 3.3, but you never know.

No probably not but that satisfies my curiousity. Cuz the paper spacers that disolve are about 1/16 inch thick. So I guess I kinda understood what you were sayin. GOOD IDEA!!!

[Taz480]

Originally Posted by coalminer

The washer I used was only about 1\16th of an inch think, the thing was that the new sensor was too close to the flywheel to sense it correctly, so it would run, but very poorly, it would sputter and die at random, but then sometimes it would run just fine. Since we put that spacer, not had any problems at all with it.

I wouldnt think the voyager 3.3 would be much different that the intrepid 3.3, but you never know.

No probably not but that satisfies my curiousity. Cuz the paper spacers that disolve are about 1/16 inch thick. So I guess I kinda understood what you were sayin. GOOD IDEA!!! Shows innovation and intuition. Nice!

[Taz480]

Hmm...nevermind post #31. Not sure what happened there, Dam internet.

[Taz480]

Sorry I haven't posted back. Had a million things going on as it's nearing christmas. I've also been letting my back rest. I've been bent over the fender for a week, LOL. I'm gonna probably have to buy another computer anyway or try to fix this one if I test and determine this one is not causing the problem. I accidently broke off the nut that the plug retaining bolt goes into. I was just putting the plug back on and tightening the retaining bolt and with almost no force, the stupid lil nut busted out. Maybe I can epoxy or glue it back in. If not, then the plug won't stay secured. Junk plastic!! Anyway, I will continue to keep you all updated. Thanx again!

[Taz480]

Update- OK I glued the nut back in the computer but now its at a slight angle so the bolt is stripping. I gotta get my tap and die set from my other tool box at my parents house tomorrow. Then I can chase the threads. Anyway, I just removed the bolt for now. I was gonna start testing the cam and crank sensors like thunder said watching for the voltage on the sgnl wires. I hooked everything back up. Harness is still layed out at this point. I used the weight of the battery to hold the plug on the brain. I exposed the inside of the water tight connector(from one end) that holds the sgnl wire from cam sensor to access the wire and the crank wire is already exposed cuz its in a bell cap at the moment. I got my analog meter out. Checked for 9volts at the pwr wires, good. Went to test the signal on one. At first crank there was a sputter then just cranking. O_o.....odd. So I moved my meter out of the way and cranked again. No start. Tried a couple more times and bam, fired. NICE!!! But what???!!!!O_o So I started moving harness and wires around while it was running. Nothing seemed to stop it. I jerked up and down on the cam sensor best I could. No problem there. OK, so dont get me wrong, Im glad it fired. But I dont trust it unless I know why. I dont wanna return the borrowed vehicle and drive another 400 miles and have it die again. I wonder if removing the corroded plug did it and it was just so flooded from trying to start it. Everytime I turn the key and get fuel for just 2 seconds, its gotta sit there in the cylinder head, right? Or maybr the bolt to the brain was messed up before and removing the bolt did it and then the flooding possibility. I dunno. Well at this point, its dark again, but Im gonna resecure part of the harness and leave some of it open and then while running, Im gonna go over each wire and connector to see if I can make it die. I'll look closer at the brain plug. Maybe theres a slight almost invisible wire break or weak point I can track down. Or do you think me taking off and messing with the brain may have jiggled something on the main board?? I dont wanna spend the $75 if I dont have to. I'll play around some more now that I actually got it running and post back. If these new findings spark any ideas, please let me know. Im not out of the woods yet. I just been not quite as worried cuz christmas was comin up and we got a back up vehicle. But I still gotta figure it out. I will keep you all updated. You guys have been such a help. I never would have got this far without you. Thanx again!!!!

[1thunder]

hey taz Merry Christmas man to you and your familly
now back to your van the signal wire was at 0v could be faulty sensor or wire shorted to ground or faulty pcm i'm thinking sensor fault was this an aftermarket sensor

[1thunder]

hey taz Merry Christmas man to you and your familly
now back to your van the signal wire was at 0v could be faulty sensor or wire shorted to ground or faulty pcm i'm thinking sensor fault was this an aftermarket sensor

[1thunder]

sorry about that didn't mean to repost like that too many things happening right now

[aldovera]

Taz, I told you before and I'm telling now, your cam sensor was probably not seated at the proper gap. Now that's running just make sure you tighten it with a socket and your troubles should be over.

[Taz480]

O_o.....
Not sure what you guys read. Thats OK, tho. Just nice to have you guys helping. I never actually tested the signals, thunder. I didn't get a chance. When I went to test the signal from both sensors with my analog meter just like you told me(watch the voltage differences), the van just decided to start, remember? Wierd. So ya I let it go cuz it was time for holiday cheer. I will probably get back on it tomorrow or the next day. But since it is at least starting fine now, I can continue to check wires, harness's, plugs and connectors and see what may have been loose or crushed causing the problem. Aldo, I will still check the cam sensor depth if I get nowhere. At this point, I will need to call the dealership and order a couple spacers to check that. Hope you guys all had a good holiday, as well. I will keep you informed. Thanx!!!!