No action on Marine who shot hurt Iraqi

[Cbass]

Originally Posted by Franko914

You guessed wrong again Raz, just like you when you left Afghanistan for whatever reason (spare me the boohoos about being too young) and that you now represent the views of the country you and your family conveniently abandoned for the relative safety of the United States of Canada.

I'd be quick to point out that those who flee any country for political reasons are going to be at least somewhat biased when it comes to the current regime of that country. Whether their opinions are justified or not, I'd take the opinions of someone who fled Iran because of their government with a grain of salt. On that note, I know a few Iranians who have done just that.

Also, what are you implying with your "United States of Canada" remark?

Originally Posted by Franko914

Just so you can learn something new, they moved to Canada because the US has stricter immigration laws.

Actually, I'd be willing to bet that they moved to Canada because of our higher standard of living, actually functional education system, our health care system which is not only functional, but takes care of all Canadians, whether they are residents or citizens.

That's not to mention the lower crime rate, more moderate political climate, which also extends to our lack of countless millions of ignorant rednecks who would persecute them as "a bunch of gawd damned Ay-Rahb Haji's".

Originally Posted by Franko914

There is no doubt that most of what you say is nonsense because of their consistent anti-American, anti-liberty, anti-democracy, and anti-freedom content. If Bush is trying to cleanse the world of Islam, he would already be using the US nuclear arsenal originally designed for cleansing the world of communists. Perhaps you should listen to your parents and learn from their experiences rather than this constant whining and spouting of foolish accusations and rhetoric.

Oh man, I can't get enough of this stuff. Are you actually serious? Anti-American, perhaps you can call someone who disagrees with your opinion, it's an extreme stretch to call someone anti-American because they disagree with the foreign policy of your government, which I'll be quick to point out, so does a LARGE chunk of your own citizens, but it's beyond credible to start labeling someone as anti-freedom and anti-liberty... You're grasping at straws, man.

If you actually read what Raz said, instead of instantly jumping at the chance to spew more rhetoric in response, you'd see that he was comparing your rantings to that of his neighbour who believes that the US is claiming to rid the world of the religion of Islam, pointing out how both opinions are absurd.

If anyone is guilty of retorting with rhetoric to actual points of debate, it's you yourself.

Originally Posted by Franko914

Probably one of the more idiotic rhetoric yet spouted by a liberal Canadian. For your education, not one captured combatant has died in Gitmo and your comparison to the Nazi's more conspicuous monuments of evil is a disgrace but unmasks more your consistent display of ignorance.

That's contrary to reports of detainees being tortured to death, actually. What's your source on that?

Also, for the first few years, there were no killings at Auschwitz.

Also, point of grammar, there is no such thing as "a rhetoric". I think you mean "rhetorical statements"

[fastguy18]

Originally Posted by Flatrater

I see nothing wrong with shooting someone who was just shooting at you. After all several non soliders had their heads cut off while they were unarmed and no outcry was given over that. Hundreds of people have been kidnapped and/or killed and none of them were armed or soliders.

exactly and who fucking knows he could have been armed with bombs the soldier had no clue until he shot him! i say GOOD FUCKING JOB

[Franko914]

Originally Posted by Cbass

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Also, what are you implying with your "United States of Canada" remark?

Not implying... stating... BIG difference.

Originally Posted by Cbass

Actually, I'd be willing to bet that they moved to Canada because of our higher standard of living, actually functional education system, our health care system which is not only functional, but takes care of all Canadians, whether they are residents or citizens.

If you want to say that because it makes you feel better, be my guest. Fact remains the US' immigration laws are more stringent than Canada's.

Originally Posted by Cbass

That's not to mention the lower crime rate, more moderate political climate, which also extends to our lack of countless millions of ignorant rednecks who would persecute them as "a bunch of gawd damned Ay-Rahb Haji's".

Less rednecks, more liberal slugs. Six of one, half a dozen of the other... and the US had first pick...

Originally Posted by Cbass

Oh man, I can't get enough of this stuff. Are you actually serious? Anti-American, perhaps you can call someone who disagrees with your opinion, it's an extreme stretch to call someone anti-American because they disagree with the foreign policy of your government, which I'll be quick to point out, so does a LARGE chunk of your own citizens, but it's beyond credible to start labeling someone as anti-freedom and anti-liberty... You're grasping at straws, man.

Simply giving it back to him, Cbass. I'll gladly oblige you, too, mon'ami, should you choose to attack the US as does he consistently.

Originally Posted by Cbass

If you actually read what Raz said, instead of instantly jumping at the chance to spew more rhetoric in response, you'd see that he was comparing your rantings to that of his neighbour who believes that the US is claiming to rid the world of the religion of Islam, pointing out how both opinions are absurd.

You go ahead and actually read what Raz said because he really doesn't himself. After reading a few of his posts/replies, one tends to ignore the rest and is tempted to simply poke fun. I tempt easily in these matters.

Originally Posted by Cbass

If anyone is guilty of retorting with rhetoric to actual points of debate, it's you yourself.

Whatever works and whatever makes you feel good about yourself. See "point of debate" below...

Originally Posted by Cbass

That's contrary to reports of detainees being tortured to death, actually. What's your source on that?

The detainess being tortured to death who don't actually die?

Originally Posted by Cbass

Also, for the first few years, there were no killings at Auschwitz.

Raz' was from ignorance. Yours is from malfeasance. Pathetic and repugnant. You do keep like company, though (see "company" below).

Originally Posted by Cbass

Also, point of grammar, there is no such thing as "a rhetoric". I think you mean "rhetorical statements"

As per Merriam Webster's definition (see below), the word is a noun (like "a dog" or "a sentence" or, well, you get the idea). I hope this starts to help.

You are confusing it as an adjective because it ends in "-ic" (like "symbolic" or "nostalgic" or, well, you get the idea). If you remove the letters "-ic", the remaining letters do not make up or even imply a word. I hope this helps a little more.

The adjective IS rhetorical, but no, I specifically chose the word "rhetoric" for the purposes therein. Thus, you think mistakenly.

Point of debate: Ignorance begets ignorance, especially amongst ignorant company.

Main Entry: rhet·o·ric
Pronunciation: 're-t&-rik
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English rethorik, from Middle French rethorique, from Latin rhetorica, from Greek rhEtorikE, literally, art of oratory, from feminine of rhEtorikos of an orator, from rhEtOr orator, rhetorician, from eirein to say, speak -- more at WORD
1 : the art of speaking or writing effectively: as a : the study of principles and rules of composition formulated by critics of ancient times b : the study of writing or speaking as a means of communication or persuasion
2 a : skill in the effective use of speech b : a type or mode of language or speech; also : insincere or grandiloquent language
3 : verbal communication : DISCOURSE

Boy, you really stepped in that one, didn't you? Nothing personal, just comical (adjectives, adjectives). Live long and prosper... under the US' umbrella of protection and freedom, that is.

[2stangs]

Haha, you have got to be kidding me. If only it were that easy to torture and kill those worthless pieces of crap. You my friend watch WAY too much tv. Its called media, and they always try to lead you into thinking the sky is falling. As for the Marine, good for him. He could've very well saved several other soldiers lives by waxing that sack of shi*. As Col. Beckwith said "... we gonna drop 'em dead on the ground and make martyrs out of 'em. That's the best way to go about it." And that is how it should be. That makes just one less threat to deal with. War is just that, its war. There are no true black and white rules that apply, and innocent people do get killed, so DEAL WITH IT!!! All of this pussy crap makes me sick. If you haven't noticed the insurgency is a bunch of brainwashed robots that want to die. What do you say we help 'em out eh? Notice that I didn't say that Iraqi's were that way, these people are getting bombed more than we are, and it pisses me off to hear about each and every person that gets killed by these happenings. And about all of this pussy "Seems a little barbaric...." if you were in his boots you would've tapped him a couple more times just to make sure he wouldn't bite. When there is somebody that poses a threat to you or more importantly the men next to you that are willing to sacrifice their lives so that you can see your family again, you don't think twice about killing them. As for "being no better than them" give me a freaking break. Its called adaptive thinking, obviously this policing effort isn't working nearly as well as when we are the assaulting force, so you adapt and use gorilla style attacking. You would be supprised to see and understand the way unconventional units ( ie. Special Ops.) work when they engage a target. Its all gorilla type attacks and anyone and I mean ANYONE that they feel poses a threat is ousted. The Rules of Engagement don't apply to them and yes a threat could be someone that would give away a position. So next time you think it is coward to do something like this, just think about the person you love the most and if it means killing some turtle dick that has been trying to kill you, why not kill them. Because that is the way a soldier thinks every man next to him; weather he likes him or not, is thought of like the person he loves most and you will do anything so that no harm comes to that person.

[2stangs]

"How can you say it's right for someone to shoot an unarmed man because he felt threatened and then get all rowdy when someone blows up a patrolling humvee because he felt his country is being threatened?"

Stop being so naive to the situation at hand. This isn't some Iraqi going around trying to flush us out, this is a person who wants power returned to some new dictator to rule the country. No, okay how about the bombs reciently that have been just to target Iraqi civilians and government officials who are trying to put a constitution into effect and start the country back up? That is officially called terrorism, when you kill people that are innocent to spread fear so that they may gain power.

"My point was that if an unarmed, wounded Marine was killed this way many would be demanding revenge of the highest order. But when it's the other way around it's ok and they can't make up excuses fast enough."

How do i put this gently. He is a worthless azz bandit terrorist. Two in the chest, one in the head!!!

I have friends over there right now, who have unfortunately had to shoot women and children. You ask who could do that? Well, when you are trying to shake hands and win the public over as the peace keeping part of the mission and some little raghead twink pulls out an ak from under his gown, you really don't have much of a choice. What most of you don't understand is that many of these people don't value life and think that everything is allah's will. Why do you think that even in Kuwait that they have a 30 minute period after an accident that you can't help them in ANY way including by ambulance. These people don't think like a normal human, so they don't need to be treated like them. Again I state, I am referring to the insurgency and not muslims in general.

[tenguzero]

Is this thread's argument still alive?

[YogsVR4]

Originally Posted by tenguzero

Is this thread's argument still alive?

Not any more.