What to upgrade for HP?

[eclipsed4utoo]

i agree with just about everything whathits14 said(didnt want to quote b/c he decided to write a book )

just a few notes...the 4G64 HAS BEEN PROVEN TO RUN AT 15PSI ON A DAILY DRIVER. there are a number of turboed 4G64 running 13-14psi daily and making over 300whp on stock internals. the 6G72, however, can only run about 8-10psi on the stock internals. if you replace the pistons with forged pistons in the 6G72, then you can run up to 25psi on the rest of the stock block. there is one guy doing it right now with the SDS(supercharger) and has been doing it for about 6-8 months. just a few tidbits of information.

whathits14, you gotta look at whos posting. you know there are always these 15 or 16 year old kids that watched 2 fast 2 furious and think they know everything about cars and engines. so they come onto a forum and post that they have 'x' car pushing 'an insane' amount of hp. we know good and well when somebody is telling the truth about their cars. and we know that the rb26dett swap guy is lying. if it was really true, i believe he would have posted some pictures to show it.

[meclipsegt]

For my paragraph writing being f'ed up, you still read it didnt you??

If the Tearstone turbo kit is so great then why is this the only place I have ever even heard of it then?? I hear all kinds of stuff about RIPP Mods s/c. Because it is good.

I apologize for saying programming. If it makes it easier I will say "tuning" for now on for those who dont like the word programming. (even though its the same damn thing )

The 4g63 can handle boost very well. Too bad the 3g eclipse comes with the 4g64. The 4g64 engine sucks so bad the RPW (who make bad a$$ stuff for Mitsubishi's) dont even make a turbo kit for it. They actually recommend to do an engine swap.

A/F mixture does make a difference. Otherwise they wouldnt make gauges for that dont you think?? Why else would you need bigger fuel injectors and fuel pmp with any kind of f/i??

And finally I thought this whole discussion was over what mods we could do to our "3g" Eclipses. I dont understand how it started to be a battle over wheich engine is better....blah blah blah. Thats what dfcoolkid wanted to know in the first place. As for that, he wanted to know what you can do to hook up a 6g72 for $1000-$2000. I dont know too many pplaces you can get a whole turbo kit for that. Unless you have connections. If you guys want to be dicks and not help the guy out with some ideas, then go to another thread.

And finally, I hope the way I wrote this is easier for you to read. If not I dont really care.

[meclipsegt]

dfcoolkid, when fixing up your car, you first need to make a plan on what you want out of your car. Do you want to stay n/a or do you want to go with boost??

An option I recommend if you dont want to mess with your engine or your warranty is weight reduction. It WONT give you more power but it will make your car a little quicker. Carbon fiber parts are always good. Maybe some lighter wheels and good tires like Yok's or BFG's.

I like sleepers, so what I did is underdrive pulley kit, AEM alt. pully, full exhaust, spark plugs and wires, Injen cai, lightened flywheel, and B&M shifter. And I ran 13.6 1/4 mile on crappy Goodyears. I could do better if I had it "tuned". But right now I dont have $350 to get it done.

But whatever you do dont forget about your brakes!!

[eclipsed4utoo]

that seems funny that you say RPW thinks this engine is crap. considering one of there employees is ALWAYS over at club3G.com and fills us in on the happenings of RPW.

RPW specializes in 6cyl. so youre saying that since RPW doesnt make a turbo kit for the 4G64, then it must be crap? well they dont make a turbo kit for the 6G72 either. but they do make/sell almost every internal engine part for the 6G72.

and one more thing you need to read....LOOK AT THE DATE WHEN THIS GUY ASKED THIS QUESTION. he asked in November of last year. do you really think after 9 months, that he still hasnt made up his mind?

you have a very hard time reading. Tearstone doesn't make a turbo. HE IS SELLING THE AAI TURBO KIT. if you havent heard of it, go over to www.club3g.com. Tearstone is a moderator over there and he started his company to sell the turbo kit the Donny Eley makes. Donny used to run AAI by himself. Since he spent so much time perfecting the turbo kit, he had little time actually trying to sell the kit, and very little time with customer support. this started giving him a bad rap. so Russ(tearstone) agreed to sell the turbo kit and do customer support. there is also another guy that is selling this turbo kit. his name is Keith with All Performance Plus.

and nobody ever said that the A/F ratio doesnt mean anything. changing the A/F ratio IS a major part of tuning. and please tell me that youre not referring to those sorry ass A/F ratio gauges(the ones where the needle bounces back and forth?).

[meclipsegt]

Last I heard RPW is currently devolping a twin turbo kit for the 6g72.

And one more thing, I dont really care what the dates are. But in that case, you are saying that you idiots have been arguing about this crap for 9 months then??? And I dont think he has made up his mind after reading this shit for that long.

And somebody did say a/f mixture doesnt matter. Read back before you talk shit. LandoAWD said: "Yeah, it is the heat. It has NOTHING to do with A/F and compression. That would be stupid."And about the gauges, you must have f'ed yours up if the needle gauge bounces around. I have installed at least 15 turbo kits in all kinds cars and I have never seen the needle bounce around. Even if it did, its only a referance anyway. Nothings perfect. Besides I dont even know why LandoAWD is even in here if he sold his Laser and only has a Land Rover now.

And for anyones information, I was looking around online and I found an intersting site. Check out www.deadeclipse.com. I know how it sounds but it is actually an insight to problems you might have with your Eclipse.

[LandoAWD]

You are a complete idiot.

1. Selling a car doesn't mean forgetting aquired knowledge.

2. Your grasp on sarcasm is as tight as your grasp on tuning. I was making fun of your idiotic statements in the bolded text you quoted.

3. Deadeclipse.com is for whiny bitches thatdon't maintain their cars and need a scapegoat.

4. Narrow band A/F gauges bounce unless you are at WOT or have a problem.

Do some research, kid.

[eclipsed4utoo]

Originally Posted by meclipsegt

Last I heard RPW is currently devolping a twin turbo kit for the 6g72.

And one more thing, I dont really care what the dates are. But in that case, you are saying that you idiots have been arguing about this crap for 9 months then??? And I dont think he has made up his mind after reading this shit for that long.

And somebody did say a/f mixture doesnt matter. Read back before you talk shit. LandoAWD said: "Yeah, it is the heat. It has NOTHING to do with A/F and compression. That would be stupid."And about the gauges, you must have f'ed yours up if the needle gauge bounces around. I have installed at least 15 turbo kits in all kinds cars and I have never seen the needle bounce around. Even if it did, its only a referance anyway. Nothings perfect. Besides I dont even know why LandoAWD is even in here if he sold his Laser and only has a Land Rover now.

And for anyones information, I was looking around online and I found an intersting site. Check out www.deadeclipse.com. I know how it sounds but it is actually an insight to problems you might have with your Eclipse.

i guess you need to do somemore reading. we havent been arguing about this for 9 months. before your first post, NOBODY HAD POSTED SINCE 12-07-2004!!!!! you brought this debate back to life with your limited knowledge of the eclipse.

and RPW is developing a kit for the 6G72. they have been developing this kit for over 2 years. who knows when they will get it finished. it will also cost about $15000. they have created the turbo kit for a magna(same engine 6G72) but they have not tested in an eclipse.

i have installed the gauge wrong? i havent even installed an A/F gauge so i couldnt have installed it wrong. youre a complete idiot when it comes to the 3G eclipse.

that website is for the whiners who beat on there car and then when something breaks, they blame it on the car maker.

[eclipsed4utoo]

this is for meclipsegt who said...

Originally Posted by meclipsegt

The 4g64 engine sucks so bad the RPW (who make bad a$$ stuff for Mitsubishi's) dont even make a turbo kit for it. They actually recommend to do an engine swap.

http://www.club3g.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41064

if RPW thinks the 4G64 engine is so bad, why do they make parts for it? and why would the decide to start another project for the 4G64?

[Tyrone Biggums]

Let this thread die! the point has been established that this kids a dumbass. people like this kid make this site shitty. Hence why anyone with true knowledge, except eclipsed4utoo and few others, still post here. like said earlier, this site is filled with 2F2F viewers. occasionally, there is a thread worth looking at, but that is few and far in between.

[2002EclipseRS]

Originally Posted by LandoAWD

You are a complete idiot.

1. Selling a car doesn't mean forgetting aquired knowledge.

2. Your grasp on sarcasm is as tight as your grasp on tuning. I was making fun of your idiotic statements in the bolded text you quoted.

3. Deadeclipse.com is for whiny bitches thatdon't maintain their cars and need a scapegoat.

4. Narrow band A/F gauges bounce unless you are at WOT or have a problem.

Do some research, kid.

I love the way Lando is straight forward and to the point.

[cficare68]

I know Lando rules!!!!!!

[eclipsed4utoo]

this just shows another reason why 3+ month old threads should be closed