B18c5 Vs K20

[BlazeD0ut06]

ok let's not get testy...
i'll show u the breakdown that a 96 hatchie owner showed me as to what it cost him to drop his h22a...

suspension = $175 for Progress H rated springs
brakes = $350 Integra rear disc brake conversion
mounts = $400 HCP motor mounts ($100 more for front crossbar)
swap = $2200 H22a shipped



$3225.00



* the cable shifter/box $100.
*obd1 to obd2 wiring harness = $100
*LS radiator = $50
*New clutch/flywheel = $500



Total price = $3975...but we'll say $4000. just to be safe since some lil shit ALWAYS will come up.

and the guy is still sitting on stoick shocks...

[jcrx]

Right, and 1,075 of that stuff is not nescessary to swap in the motor.

Suspension, should be done anyway, not nescessary. Civics radiator will cool a H22A, so, not nescessary. Brake conversion, not nescessary. Clutch doesn't count, because it is not nescessary, unless his was screwed, but guess what, a D series one would be too, so, not nescessary. The cable shitfers and box should have come with a complete swap, and if it was the right year motor, there would be no need to buy the right harness. So being nice about it, it only cost him 2930 everything else was not needed for the swap.

[BlazeD0ut06]

Originally Posted by jcrx

Right, and 1,075 of that stuff is not nescessary to swap in the motor.

Suspension, should be done anyway, not nescessary. Civics radiator will cool a H22A, so, not nescessary. Brake conversion, not nescessary. Clutch doesn't count, because it is not nescessary, unless his was screwed, but guess what, a D series one would be too, so, not nescessary. The cable shitfers and box should have come with a complete swap, and if it was the right year motor, there would be no need to buy the right harness. So being nice about it, it only cost him 2930 everything else was not needed for the swap.

i disagree i think those r necessary..infact i think he should have spent more inorder for the car to be reliable...

full suspension for H is not the sdame as susp for d or b...
unless all ur planning to do is run str8 all day long...
brakes..u should get aftermarket big brake kit really if not atleast itr front and rears...
all swaps are not complete changeovers and even if they r shyt will be missing broken etc..

as i have said before companies only give u a 30 day warranty on the head and the block...everything els..ur basically on ur own...

if u say that its cheap to drop the swap its one thing..but to get the car running and handling and stopping the way u want..u'll spend 4g's+ now that i think about it...
but whatever jcrx...
i'm in no way undermining what ur saying..but i'm sure ur overlooking some stuff...

[jcrx]

No, I am not overlooking anything

Here is my point, when you are trying to tell someone, "this is what it cost to install X motor in X car", you can't include extra mods like suspension (they might already have it), radiators (unless you physically need one because the motor doesn't fit. And you can't list other items that any motor would need when considering price, like a new clutch, or whatever that could be needed for any swap not just a K or H, or D or B or whatever, like broken sensors or shit parts those can come from any swap.

If you are going to be dispensing advice on motor swaps, don't be bullshitting based on personal preference.

[CivicSpoon]

Originally Posted by BlazeD0ut06

full suspension for H is not the sdame as susp for d or b...

WTF? Suspension is suspension. Either you buy some cheap e-bay quality shit or you spend the $ and get good stuff.

Suspension you need for the H-series swap: springs and shocks or coilovers.

Upgraded suspension for any other swap or a stock car: ? Are you going to buy something other than springs and shocks or coilovers?