The worlds fastets car: Koenigsegg CC-R beats the McLaren F1 at Nardo 2005!

[Samurai75007]

Originally Posted by Peloton25

It's really a non-issue - the 9ff is a modified car no matter how you slice it - not a production car. If we're factoring in modified cars, the Callaway Sledgehammer did 254.76mph (~410kph) all the way back in 1989 and I am sure there are other modified cars that are capable of something even higher.

>8^)
ER

Ahh yes my bad for some reason I thought they were like RUF where they had there own vin and that the car's were production and not modified cars.

[F1 monster]

They do have their own VINs and they are like RUF. But it doesn't change the fact that they start off with a Porsche body and chassis. No matter how much tweaking they do, it will be a modified, tuned Porsche.

[Samurai75007]

Originally Posted by F1 monster

They do have their own VINs and they are like RUF. But it doesn't change the fact that they start off with a Porsche body and chassis. No matter how much tweaking they do, it will be a modified, tuned Porsche.

Well then in at least my eye's and the government who issued a VIN to them it is a production car though I think they should use 100% there own part's its not fair to count them out because there using another company's frame. Company’s trade platforms all the time though usually within there own family that's pretty much what there doing right now. Now if there is a minimum production number that they don’t match I could understand that. In like leman's your car can’t compete in GT more then a year or to unless you make so many. I’m not trying to start anything but it seams unfair if they have gone through what they need to be a manufacturer.

[amanichen]

Originally Posted by Peloton25

It's really a non-issue - the 9ff is a modified car no matter how you slice it - not a production car. If we're factoring in modified cars, the Callaway Sledgehammer did 254.76mph (~410kph) all the way back in 1989 and I am sure there are other modified cars that are capable of something even higher.

>8^)
ER

Not to mention that cars like the Porsche 962, Sledgehammer Vette, Koenigsegg, etc., need significantly higher horsepower (150-220 more hp) to reach the same speed (+ or - a few mph) that the F1 is capable of.

[F1 monster]

Samurai, it is not enough to "seem" like something on paper. There is an accepted understanding of the word "manufacturer", and there's the legal definition, which means you have filed the necessary paperwork and ...sigh, forget it. Just do a search, you will find that this has been discussed before.

If you want to think of them as a manufacturer, that's cool. Feel free.

[Samurai75007]

Well I guess it doesn’t matter what we think only the organization that say's who the fastest car is.

[Peloton25]

Chiming in here - I understand the RUF situation too, but I still consider them a tuner and not a true manufacturer.

>8^)
ER

[Jaguar D-Type]

Originally Posted by Gustav

BMW M6:

http://www.m6board.com/articles.php?id=29&page=1

That M6 has one nasty trunk.