It ain't all negitive...

[Raz_Kaz]

Originally Posted by 44Magnum

Why, so someone can be persecuted because you think they should?

Are you saying Saddam is a more important person to catch then Osama? If so, how?

Why the heck do you all care what Bush does anyway? How is it affecting you in your lives? There isn't a US person here not connected with the military that has had any hardship about Iraq. And, sorry, but all you in other countries it's affecting you even less. You could kamikazi the White House if it really bothers you all and if you had the guts. But you won't and you don't. You'll just run your mouths about nothing.

I happen to have many families in the States. Furthermore, when the whole 9/11 thing happened, there was alot of heckiling towards the family that lives in New York. They were constantly in fear of the police even. Always being stopped for no reason, asked very perosnal questions and sometimes even being questionned about their faith and how they can continue to be a muslim after what they did. Many of my Iraqi friends also lost relatives, some close some distant...all for what?

[DGB454]

Originally Posted by fredjacksonsan

I think that's a referral to the Republican party and GW.

These links are old, but interesting nevertheless:

http://www.aaiusa.org/republican_mideast.htm

I'm not sure what to make of this site. There is a lot of good info focused on Arab Americans but the arlicle about the Republican party platform in 2004 was to me a little confusing. Was the article based on what the Republicans themselves said was their platform or was it based on the writers perception of their platform? Very cool that they went all the way back to 68.

http://www.counterpunch.org/goldstein03142003.html

I liked this one. There was a little more meat to it. It does implicate both parties which is a good start as far as I am concerned.
I do remember when I first heard mention of this quote: "energy and resource issues will continue to shape international security" .
I wasn't suprised that it was said and I can even understand why it was said. I think that was always the case not only in this country but in every country that doesn't posess vast oil fields. The only thing that will change that line of thinking is an alternate energy source that is readily available to everyone and is able to be manufactured in every country. Another possibility is that we change our view on what it takes to secure the energy needed to sustain a country. That change is security through friendships and equal trade among friends and allies.
There is a huge stumbling block in that road called Israel. My personal feelings is that we should continue to support Israel but continue to push towards peace with Israel and it's Middle East neighbors. The way those other countries feel about the Jewish people I doubt that a long lasting peace will ever happen though.

For the part on the NEPDG. I will have to hold off on making any judgement on that until more facts come out. (Hopefully they will come out) I must admit that I don't like the way it's being covered up but it seems like that is always happening with the Government. Too many secrets from publicly appointed officials as far as I am concerned.

http://www.jcpa.org/brief/brief2-30.htm

Didn't have time to get into this one yet but I will.

I have been saying this a lot lately.
Sorry for side tracking this thread.

[fredjacksonsan]

Loved your comment on alternative energy. Imagine what would happen to OPEC, and the middle east, if an alternate source was implemented.

[thrasher]

Originally Posted by 44Magnum

Raz- I'm just saying what's the difference? Who cares what they do? It don't shorten my commute in the morning at all.

You have just shown why the whole world hates Americans. It doesn't shorten your commute? Are you fucking kidding? People are dying, and all you're worried about is your commute? That is pathetic. As long as it doesn't affect your life, who cares. What an attitude.

[fredjacksonsan]

But you have to admit that that attitude does reflect the attitude of many Americans. We've all seen the low voter turnouts and other disinterest.

That's also part of why US citizens are seen as rich, fat, dumb, and happily ignorant of the greater world around them by people overseas.

[Muscletang]

I'm agreeing with lamehonda on this one here. How long did we give Sadam to leave the country, a week, two weeks? This was more than enough time to destroy, hide, or export whatever WMD he had, evidence he had them, and anything else that would of backed up America's claims. Also, if we invaded Iraq for oil, where is it? Last time I checked gas prices are going up and not down.

[lamehonda]

Originally Posted by thrasher

You have just shown why the whole world hates Americans. It doesn't shorten your commute? Are you fucking kidding? People are dying, and all you're worried about is your commute? That is pathetic. As long as it doesn't affect your life, who cares. What an attitude.

Why should he care about anything else? We have been raised to not care about anything but ourselves. That is one of the downsides of an individualistic society like ours. Not saying its right, but I do understand where his comments come from.

[fredjacksonsan]

Why? Because if you stick your head in the sand for long enough, something will come up and bite you in the ass.

My

[lamehonda]

I agree.

[Twitch1]

Here's a little photo essay that some might like- turn on the sound:
http://www.iwo.com/heroes.htm

[lamehonda]

Nice, that one picture with the guy getting water poured on his head looked kinda strange. I just hoped that wasn't gasoline and the guy behind him wasn't striking a match.

I hope my childish observation didn't ruin it.