It ain't all negitive...

[Twitch1]

"Medal of Honor in Operation Iraqi
LAST UPDATE: 4/4/2005 4:59:52 AM


WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush today will award the first Medal of Honor stemming from action in the Iraq war.

The nation's highest honor for military valor will be awarded posthumously to Sergeant First Class Paul Smith. He served with the Eleventh Engineering Battalion of the Third Infantry Division and lost his life engaging Iraqi troops in the fight for control of Baghdad's airport two years ago.

Smith's platoon was setting up a prisoner detention area when Iraqi troops attacked them. Several Americans were injured.

Smith commandeered a vehicle with a 50-caliber weapon mounted at the rear and with his entire upper body exposed to Iraqi fire, he got off an estimated 300 rounds to protect his troops and repel the Iraqis.

Military officials believe he saved the lives of dozens of soldiers."

Smith basically took on 100 enemies and wiped out about half of them alone. Good for him and those he protected. This is the first MoH since Somalia.

All we hear or read is a casuality list as if nothing happens but our guys getting killed.

Back in November a Marine named Sgt. Rafael Peralta took incoming AK rounds wounding him as his squad probed into a house or building in Faluja. When a grenade came through the doorway he immediately grabbed it and stuck it under his body saving the rest of the squad.
THIS stuff we almost never hear.

I don't care who sent our guys where or what for. All I care about is that they have the chance to vanquish the enemy and as many as possible stay alive. It ain't about political loyalties. It's about supporting the guys- our fellow citizens.

[fredjacksonsan]

Valour in combat. Hoo-rah.

Too bad it's posthumous.

[Flatrater]

Twitch I know we have some heroes in Iraq and alot of very brave men fighting right now. But its a waste of time posting it here because the anti-Bush faction will twist it.

I am proud of the US soliders fighting and dying in Iraq and nothing will take that away from us Americans.

[Twitch1]

This post is for the normal people here. Scoundrels have no idea what valor and honor are anyway so who cares about them, bro.

[Muscletang]

Politics aside from this about whether the war is right or not. These guys are braver than I'll ever be and know true sacrifice. It's an honor to have guys like this serving your country because it makes you...proud to be an American.

[sivic02]

Originally Posted by Muscletang

Politics aside from this about whether the war is right or not. These guys are braver than I'll ever be and know true sacrifice. It's an honor to have guys like this serving your country because it makes you...proud to be an American.

True. I have a friend in the army who was just riding with a group to pick up a pack of cigarettes, they took fire, the guy who was on the big gun (whatever the hell its called, its on the back of the hummer thinggys) got shot so my friend hopped on it and took out 7 people, got some medals, I was proud of him...politics aside.

[taranaki]

Originally Posted by Flatrater

Twitch I know we have some heroes in Iraq and alot of very brave men fighting right now. But its a waste of time posting it here because the anti-Bush faction will twist it.

I am proud of the US soliders fighting and dying in Iraq and nothing will take that away from us Americans.

I've yet to see anyone in this forum make any criticism of those who are actually fighting.

The venom is reserved for the lying asshole that sent them there.

[Twitch1]

We all just want our brothers back and they need to do whatever it takes to stay alive. Smith just did a little more to make certain some more will return home. Why would Sgt. Peralta cover a grenade with his body? Same reason- protecting his pals. That's all there is in combat. No political parties or tired dogma- just death.

Every professional politician is worth a buck of spit to me. Both demos and republicans hosed us in Nam. Pretty much the same all over the world. To arrive at a lofty position in a government anywhere means you are realtively slimy. Only when a neophyte comes unexpectedly from the ranks of the citizens, thrust into the political arena for some reason is there reason to be positive.

[Raz_Kaz]

I support the troups.




Go Iraq Go!

[lamehonda]

Raz,

Why don't you go pack your bags and lend them a hand if you like them so much?

[Raz_Kaz]

So the only way to support troups is to join them on the battlefront?




If so, then all those who aren't fighting right now are all anti-american, soldier hating tree huggers.

[lamehonda]

No, it was a joke. Albeit, not a very funny one.

[Cbass]

Originally Posted by Raz_Kaz

So the only way to support troups is to join them on the battlefront?




If so, then all those who aren't fighting right now are all anti-american, soldier hating tree huggers.

Owned.

With no disrespect to those who show valour in the face of danger and adversity, I think it's much more important to see the negative stories, instead of the heartwarming propaganda fodder such as this one. Not because I'm a pessimist or because I hate America(which if you all remember, I am and I do, right?), but because it reminds us that for every Sgt. Paul Smith who courageously gave his life covering his unit, there are a hundred John Does who never even saw it coming, and went home in body bags.

War is messy business, there is no glory in war, and glorifying acts of valour misses teh entire point of them.

[Twitch1]

cbass- I ain't sure if you're kidding or what but if not that attitude is why media outlets the world over dwell on sadness, death, accidents, conflicts and negative things. To appease the many like you who feed on negativety, media exploits the dark feelings of "I'm glad that ain't me!" when folks hear about a plane crash, building exploding or a tsunami. It's a sad thing that one refuses to celebrate the triumphs of humanity of a person that survived alone the plane crash or burning building or saved another person. To rub one's hands in glee at another's misfortune is truly the pit of dispair.

See, this is why this forum is such a fug-a-thon for negative mopes. It is perfectly OK to post about something negative like a GI accidently shot another who ran into his line of fire or something. Then the hoots, cat calls and degrading begins. Lets pile up on it!

And what makes anyone so bitter about the US that it invades his daily routine? Did an American keep you from eating today? Or cause a traffic jam on your way to work? Did they attach your paycheck to buy M-16s? You don't even have a good reason. It's just chic to say you hate the US. HAHAHAHA!

And as a pessimist the glass isn't just half empty instead of half full, it's going to break anyway so why bother1? Yep, folks like you are a perfect tool for the international negative media.

The whole point of Smith's action was so that the 100 others would NOT go home in bags!! How is that glorifying war? We as humans glorify acts of valor in every race, society and ethnic culture on the planet! This is normal. Should "that guy saved the little girl from the tsunami" be exploited as a bad thing? How sick is that?

Raz if you're for Iraq )Go Iraq go!) that means you are for a democratically elected nation of people and not foreign or domestic insurgents. Yeah Raz!

[Raz_Kaz]

Iraqi troups...the ones fighting off the American imperialists.