Feeding Tube Reinsertion Denied Again

[Sticky]

The judges made a decision. The courts can decide what does and doesn't happen, when they do decide the executive branch has no power to change it. It's checks and balances. It is a shitty way for her to die, but after 5 years they should realize that recovery probably won't happen.

[tacoma man.]

This story is so sad, i cant even watch it on the news anymore, they show her on the news moving and responding to things, anyone can see that this woman is NOT completly gone, and she should be alowed to live! I know if i was a supporter outside of the hospice, they would have to shoot me cause i would run to her with a bottle of water, and no guard would stop me. (they probally would but they'd have a hard time catching me) one thing that really got me was the husband telling just hoiw much he loved her......and then the family tells about his new woman and he also has a child with this woman. and i'd say that the judges are being bought off by the husband. Its a shame someone would take money over a human life.

[Killswitch]

Sure, the woman isn't completely gone, but she's gone enough. She can't do anything, and she won't ever be able to do anything as long as she lives. It's not a life if you can't live it.

[jcsaleen]

You know what I think of when I hear this crap. I think of when a horse breaks its leg. Even if you somehow manage to save its life it will never be the same and if anything its cruel and unusaul punishment to keep it alive because you feel that it needs to go on.

[carrrnuttt]

Originally Posted by tacoma man.

This story is so sad, i cant even watch it on the news anymore, they show her on the news moving and responding to things, anyone can see that this woman is NOT completly gone, and she should be alowed to live! I know if i was a supporter outside of the hospice, they would have to shoot me cause i would run to her with a bottle of water, and no guard would stop me. (they probally would but they'd have a hard time catching me) one thing that really got me was the husband telling just hoiw much he loved her......and then the family tells about his new woman and he also has a child with this woman. and i'd say that the judges are being bought off by the husband. Its a shame someone would take money over a human life.

Calm down bro'. Most of those are old home-movies that the PARENTS gave the media. You're letting your imagination get ahead of you.

Like I tried to imply before, the person upstairs sitting with her every night is her husband, and it has been that way for 13 years-or-so now. I don't know if the doctors are "evil" too, but I don't see any of them petitioning to keep her body alive...

[RSX-S777]

In my mind it's no worse than assisted suicide. Granted, it should ultimately be the patients' choice (and some will agree that it probably was)- but I'm sure the majority of people out there would choose not to live in a wholly vegetative state. If the meddling, Keen-on-Jesus "saviors" intervened on my behalf in the same situation, I would be nothing but bitter. That is, if I even posessed the capacity to feel bitterness (or ANYTHING) at all, which would be unlikely. It's horrible that she and her family were ever subjected to this tragedy in the first place. I can't believe she is suffering or in any discomfort. Without a functioning brain there can be no pain, there can be no acknowledgement of pain, hunger or anything. This is more an issue of family attachment than patient suffering.

[Gotti]

How do you actually know she doesnt feel anything? She could be watching whats going on behind her emotionless face, not able to communicate that this is actually causing her pain

[RSX-S777]

I suppose that, until I decide to go through med school, I'll trust what the real doctors have to say on the matter and not play the "what if" game.

[Marc04]

OK the way i am looking at this is 100 years ago, there were no feeding tubes, she would have more like died after the accident that caused her brain damage. God would have taken her then, if you choose to look at it that way. Its modern medicin keeping her alive, perhaps over God's wishs, once again, if you choose to look at it that way

[thegladhatter]

Since everyone seems all in favor of letting this poor woman starve to death and its been politicized by some, here is a suggestion.

Lets sell exclusive pay-per-view rights so everyone can watch her waste away slowly on prime time. That way the husband and his new family can make some $$$ to pay for all of the bills and have a nice tidy little nest egg left for their future.

Now if you actually think Im serious you need to read Jonathan Swift. Having to actually watch her die and see it might make some of these cruel and heartless judges reconsider and intervene for humane reasons.

Would she be better off dead, probably. Is starving her to death the right way? Hell no!
Lets start starving some of our death row scumbags who are enjoying a feast every day.

Isn't this screwed up?

[kman10587]

1. Just because someone is moving around or reacting to the environment around them doesn't mean that they are aware of doing it. There are deeply ingrained reflexes in our neural and behavioral patterns called "instincts", and these will cause a person to react whether they are consciously doing it or not.

2. You do not know better the doctors. "What do doctors know anyways?" They have studied and trained for years and years at some of the hardest schools to get into in the world, and they get paid well over $100,000 to do their job, so I'd say they know a hell of a lot more than you bible-thumping medicine men. Up until the feeding tube was removed, there were virtually no doctors saying that she might be aware that she is starving to death. Any qualified neurologist would have said that she is a complete vegetable. The only ones saying otherwise are those hired by the parents.

3. Money is not an issue in this case. I am very confident that the husband has been offered large sums of money to keep his wife alive. On the subject of money, though, we spend millions and millions of it keeping these "vegetables" alive each year. It's as if we are keeping them alive just for the sake of saying they are alive, when in all practical sense of the word, they aren't. We could use that money to build new schools or reform social security, but no, let's use it to keep a bunch of "vegetables" alive instead. People need to just let go and realize that sometimes you lose someone you love, and keeping the body around with a pulse in it isn't going to make them any more alive; it's just a waste of money and a serious blow to the dignity of your loved one.

Using modern medicine to save lives is great and all, but you have to draw a line somewhere. People die. Terry Schiavo is already dead, in my opinion. Spending millions of dollars a year to keep a human shell around is ridiculous, and really exemplifies how much this country, this culture, is bound by fear: the fear that, someday, someone you love may have to let you go, and there's not a goddamn thing you can do about it.

[Killswitch]

Well, it's official: SHE'S DEAD NOW!!!!!!!! Terri Schiavo finally departed from this world. She died this morning after 13 days off the feeding tube. Now the contreversy will continue, of course, but everyone should just shut the fuck up about it and let the woman rest in peace.

[kman10587]

It's about goddamn time. Let the religious wars begin.

[jcsaleen]

Originally Posted by kman10587

It's about goddamn time. Let the religious wars begin.

Thats for another section

[TexasF355F1]

Originally Posted by Killswitch

Now the contreversy will continue, of course, but everyone should just shut the fuck up about it and let the woman rest in peace.