Skyline GTR34 vs E46 M3

[fairladyz_gt-r]

Originally Posted by DinanM3_S2

All right, now I see why we were finding such different times, I have been talking about the standard GT-R, you've been talking about the V-Spec this whole time. I still stand by the M3 being faster then the GT-R, but the V-Spec is another story.

A stock GT-R will still be faster since their only differece is the Aerodynamic part. Is like 323i and 323is

[kman10587]

Yeah, the V-Spec package hardly does anything, a standard GT-R will still beat an E46 M3.

[drunken monkey]

but doesn't the V-Spec package offer more downforce and hence more traction?

[publicenemy137]

^ yea once it's already launched and going fast, but it won't affect it that much. GTR 34 > M3 by far

[kman10587]

The V-Spec is going to make the R34 GT-R a tiny bit faster, but it's not enough to negate the considerable advantage that the R34 already has over the M3.

[drunken monkey]

...but then again, isn't the V-Spec kit also that little bit heavier?
i do remember an old article taht tested the V-spec next to the standard GT-R and the V-spec is tidier on a track. Not sure if it would make that much of a difference when only going in a straight line though.

one thing though when talking about the GT-R and the M3.
in the uk, an official UK GT-R costs around £50,000 where as the M3 is about £44,000.
i can't quite see why i would choose the nissan over the bmw here.

[TRD2000]

i love both these cars!

i'd go the m3 even if it was slightly slower.

the GTR is a great car and they look really mean, but i can't see them being THAT much faster than the M3.. and i think the M# would be more rewarding to drive...

[TRD2000]

hmmm i thought the GTR would do better than 5.2 0-100... a couple of thoughts.

during N testing the e59 M5 reportedly passed the R34 on one of the straights at 310kph (obviously before they fitted the limiter to 250kph) the r34 beat it overall round N-burg but straight line had nothing on the 400hp 1800kg M5.

also in testing the M3 beat the M5, with a 0-100k time of 4.8, this was either detuned, or fudged to make it appear as though the (far more expensive) flag ship was quicker. the M3 demolishes the M5 on corners.

the power spread of the m3 vs the power peak of the GTR should make the M3 a lot more drivable and allow for "7/10th" driving, whereas the GTR requires 100% to get the performance (7000rpm drop the clutch launches and lots of gear changes)

on a track i'd give it to the GTR, and on the road 4wd is an advantage cause of surface variation, but the risk of being caught out of your power band and not having the grunt to make it work for you... hmm on road i'm giving it to the M3

[CrzyMR2T]

Originally Posted by TRD2000

hmmm i thought the GTR would do better than 5.2 0-100... a couple of thoughts.

during N testing the e59 M5 reportedly passed the R34 on one of the straights at 310kph (obviously before they fitted the limiter to 250kph) the r34 beat it overall round N-burg but straight line had nothing on the 400hp 1800kg M5.

also in testing the M3 beat the M5, with a 0-100k time of 4.8, this was either detuned, or fudged to make it appear as though the (far more expensive) flag ship was quicker. the M3 demolishes the M5 on corners.

the power spread of the m3 vs the power peak of the GTR should make the M3 a lot more drivable and allow for "7/10th" driving, whereas the GTR requires 100% to get the performance (7000rpm drop the clutch launches and lots of gear changes)

on a track i'd give it to the GTR, and on the road 4wd is an advantage cause of surface variation, but the risk of being caught out of your power band and not having the grunt to make it work for you... hmm on road i'm giving it to the M3

actually, the gtr has a lot better low end than the m3. the m3 actually has the peaky power band, it revs high to get its power like the honda s2000.

[kman10587]

Yeah, the GT-R makes as much or more torque than it does horsepower, and almost all of it below 4000 rpm. The M3 doesn't get the brunt of its power until well past 5000.

[fairladyz_gt-r]

Let's don't for get GT-R use Twin Turbos which kick's in quite early...