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Old 01-11-2004, 08:54 PM
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i hjavnt smoekd in months cuz i get piss tested
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Old 01-18-2004, 01:48 AM
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To me, i think that the weed (marijuana) actually makes you more relaxed and calm and spaced-out kinda feeling where alcohol actually makes things worse. I feel sick. get cramps, start stumblin when im high on the limits of tolerance. But people want to do what they want to do so whatever. Dosent concern me unless it involves me.
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Old 01-18-2004, 10:54 PM
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I apoligize if anything I say in the next few lines has already been said, but i did not feel like reading 9 pages of opinions from people between the ages of 10 and 60. Weed is not something that everyone can relate too, thats why a lot of people in the thread are either strongly for it or against it. It makes the posts hard to read because you either strongly agree, or obviously disagree. Personally, I have been tokin up for the past 5-7 years, not everyday, but not less than once a weekend. There are the occasional weekends when I just can't do it, but then there are those weekdays that could you a little "fun" i guess you could say.

Basically weed has it's good aspects and it's not so good aspects. As most of you have already said, it is way better than alcohol in terms of the effect on your body. But there are a lot of other issues concerning weed that go way beyond the physical stand-point. Weed does effect your mind in the long run. It does make you a more "boring" person as some of you have already stated, and it does make you harder to talk to. I know this because I have noticed how much harder it is to make conversation with someone who has been smoking for a while, unless you talk about smoking.

Those anti drug commercials WORK. The first time I smoked, all i could think about was the look on my mothers face if she ever found it. The hardest part about smoking is the guilt that comes from it, and that guilt would never be around if you parents never told you weed was bad, or if you never saw a single commercial about it. Think about it, the only reason you feel bad about smoking is because you see those 5 kids in the car, pulling up to the mcdonalds window, screaming, "I want a cheesburger!", then driving away to hit a girl on a bike. Hmmm, now what if the commercial cut off before they even pulled away? Not so bad now is it. . .

I would hate to see weed become legalized for a couple reasons. Even though it would be cheaper, easier to get a hold of, and probably everywhere you look, leaglization would suck. Think about it this way; before ciggarettes, there was tobacco and a pipe. now, there is nicotine, xenalphite, rat poison. . . If weed became legalized, there would be hundreds of companys willing to put thousands of un-organic materials into it to make it more apealing to a user. Then the good, "real" stuff would cost more, because it would be a rarity. I like smoking pot straight in its purest form, no additives, no accesories, just some good ol tokin a bong weed. . .

I have a couple more theories but I don't really feel like typing them all night (see, weed makes you LAZY too). But basically, yea it bad for you in some ways, but its kind of like food. You are always craving it, you can go for more even if you don't need too, if it's in front of your face, your gonna eat it, but it doesnt fill your appetite.
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I would hate to see weed become legalized for a couple reasons. Even though it would be cheaper, easier to get a hold of, and probably everywhere you look, leaglization would suck. Think about it this way; before ciggarettes, there was tobacco and a pipe. now, there is nicotine, xenalphite, rat poison. . . If weed became legalized, there would be hundreds of companys willing to put thousands of un-organic materials into it to make it more apealing to a user. Then the good, "real" stuff would cost more, because it would be a rarity. I like smoking pot straight in its purest form, no additives, no accesories, just some good ol tokin a bong weed. . .
dude, unless you grow it yourself that weed is already stepped all over and mixed with less quality bud, and covered in water then microwaved so it's fluffy but not heavy so it appears to be more than it really is. when you have buds hanging in you closet above a dehumidifer where you can just pick fresh lil niggts and put them in your bong, then it's in its purest form. one of the major reasons weed isn't legal is because coors and anheiser busch beer companies are the #1 leading contributors to the "partenership for a drug free America" if weed were legal beer sales would plummet.

and those antidrug commercials are rediculous. ever see the one where the little girl is playing by the pool? and the narrator says "just tell her parents you were busy getting high" how does that have to do with anything concerning marijuana? the kid could have been busy changing his motor oil, or typing on AF. if he stood there stoned and watched her drown i would understand. and there are waaay too many piggies at Mcdonalds so i doubt you'd be fucking around with the drivethrough and smoking. not to mention it's like 6 kids smoking one doob and they're all so smashed for some reason. and that same damn little girl rode her bicycle in front of the drivethrough like 6 times, she was asking to get hit. the only one that had somewhat of an impact was the one where the little kid is killed by his own brother and he's placing a picture of him by the accident site.
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I couldn't help but chuckle at the idea that conversations like this are still going on and that people are still this naive and gullible to use all of their "hearsay" evidence to prove facts about a drug they have never done and have no personal experience doing. The idea that smoking marijuana injects the desire to tramp the streets looking for harder drugs is rediculous. If a person is curious about the effects of drugs, then they are curious about drugs; No drug injects that desire into a persons mind. The only reason MJ is the scapegoat for this "gateway drug" thing is that its the most widely used illegal drug and its the easiest one to get in most situations. I've done alot of drugs and MJ was the last one I got into on a regular basis. I personally started out with Ecstasy because it was around more at the time and I wanted to know what it was like to be on drugs. It turned out to be one of the best things I ever did for myself, and as for the person that says "These people have done so many drugs that they actually believe they are good for you", just because your personal opinion is narrow minded which makes you hate everything you dont understand, it doesnt mean that people arent responsible when they do drugs and take the time to research its effects, what to do and what not to do and just generally being smart about things and listening to what your body tells you. I've had nothing but good, and I might add, *very* beneficial long term effects from using drugs. MJ is the only one that I've stuck with up until now, but I'm sick of you people tryin to come up and use all these "government" facts and hearsay information when you have no idea what your talking about. No drug is a gateway drug so just knock that shit off. Might I remind you that the government might not be the best source of information considering that our government doesn't know how to tell the truth about anything. If honesty were introduced into our government, the economy would collapse. Get your "facts" somewhere else, and make sure they are right next time.



I also saw someone offer a theory as to why MJ was made illegal in the first place. Thanks to a show I saw on A&E a few times, I can tell you exactly what that reason was. Marijuana's popularity rose into the public eye during alcohol prohibition and it never went back down. People preferred MJ to alcohol because there were little to no negative effects associated with it as opposed to alcohol. At the time, the immigration problems from mexico were getting out of hand and they decided they had to do something about it. They found that the one common bond between all of these mexicans coming to the US had between them were that they all grew and/or smoked marijuana. The idea was on the table, now all they had to do was convince the public and the federal government that making a "weed" illegal wasn't as stupid as it sounded. Then came the commercials: "Pot makes you go crazy" ... "Pot makes you kill people" ... "Pot makes you go out and commit crimes" ... "Pot makes you beat your mother over the head with a frying pan cause she said to go to your room" .. that kinda bullshit; and you don't need to look very far today to see that its still going on. These TV commercials scared the public into thinking that MJ was a bad drug, and therefore became illegal followed by the Marijuana Stamp Act. The Marijuana Stamp Act basically says that in order to possess marijuana legally, you must get one of these stamps from the government first. The only problem with this was that the stamps were never produced and because you had to show up to get the stamp with MJ in hand, these people were just thrown into jail because they were already breaking the law just by having the pot on them. It tricked thousands of people into jail. That is why marijuana was made illegal in the first place and it pisses me off. The only thing keeping this going is that people still keep believing this shit today.

Marijuana doesn't make you stupid or lazy, however stupid and lazy people smoke pot. It's not that it makes you lazy, its just when your high, you realize that doing those things just arent worth the fucking effort. Matter of fact, marijuana generally appeals to intellegent people who are interested in going beyond the normal bounds of thinking.

More about these commercials; I can't believe some of you don't see how desperate they are to get people to stop. Where's all these facts that tell how bad of a drug MJ is in these commercials? They literally have to make things up or exxagerate things or even take what people have done on alcohol and use that in a pot commercial. Open your fucking eyes people. Did you not even notice that not even a week after 9/11, there were commercials on TV saying that anyone that bought marijuana helped to fund the terrorists that flew planes into our buildings and killed our people. Not even a week after!! This is being desperate and not having the facts. Same with D.A.R.E, the government uses scare tactics to deter people from drugs instead of facts, which they have none of. Then, there's commercials that say that a young girl got pregnant when she smoked pot; yeah, as if that doesn't happen without the help of pot. This is more of an alcohol thing because pot does not make you that stupid that you don't know what your doing. People seem to confuse the effects of alcohol with the effects of pot and thats not fair because there is no comparison; one is much safer and much more controlled than the other is.



I've only seen one legitimate argument against MJ legalization and it was a good point; look at all the added chemicals put into cigarettes now, which are no doubt what causes lung cancer from cigarette smoking. I mean these chemicals are only... what.. radioactive?? Just like the fertilizers that are used on the plants while they are growing. I don't want to see this happen to pot and quite frankly, the government doesn't deserve the tax dollars from it for all the shit they've put people through over this, but I guess if it's also legal to cultivate, then I'm all for legalization.

You people go on saying how MJ has killed people due to DWI. No, this is what happens with DRUNK driving. Probably not likely, which is once again, a false similarity drawn between alcohol and pot. It's easy to drive on pot. I can hardly walk when I'm drunk, but I could get as stoned as I could get and still be able to walk straight lines. It doesn't "Overmedicate" so to speak; you are always in control of what your doing and for the most part, its easy to block out the effects if you have to. Smoking pot does not kill brain cells and in fact, THC acts as an antioxidant and actually protects your brain cells rather than kill them. Do your fucking research people. There have been studies that prove marijuana protects against brain damage from stroke, heart attacks, and nerve gas. Therefore, your argument for brain damage is out the fucking window. So for the last time, pot does not cause brain damage.

It amazes me how everyone yells about how dangerous marijuana is, yet the 2 most dangerous toxins known to the human body are already legal; Alcohol and Nicotine. Alcohol kills in upwards of 350,000 people a year; tobacco about 150,000, and all illegal drugs combined kill under 10,000 people yearly, most of them could be prevented by simply educating people on truth instead of scare tactics. (erowid.com has reliable information about drugs; mad props to this site!). Marijuana has no long term negative side effects *assuming* that this person does not abuse the drug. There is a common misconception among people who haven't done drugs that anyone who uses drugs is an addict. There are many factors that play into this. It doesn't matter what drug you do or even how often you use it, but rather the degree to which you let it run your life and your ability to function normally without it. I have nothing but utter contempt for anyone addicted to drugs. It's the addicts that make the users look bad.


Marijuana also does not cause lung cancer and the main evidence for this fact is that.. well.. its a medicine for cancer patients! Now, I know america is fucked up beyond repair, but I dont think that even this country is fucked up to the point where we are giving patients medicine thats going to give them more cancer and worsen their condition. That's easy enough to prove.

And as a last little bit of incentive against MJ causing brain damage, our brain has cannibinoid receptors specifically designed to absorb the very active chemicals that are found in marijuana. ***Marijuana is the only known plant in the world that has a high enough concentration of these cannibinoids to have an effect.*** So you see, the brain already knows what to do with these cannibinoids. God knew what he was doing when he made pot for us; its still au natural, just like mushrooms. And no, tobacco in cigarettes is not natural because of the chemicals added. Marijuana is used without *ANY* additives and thats surely what the government will be doing to it if they are allowed to tax and sell it to us. They'll make it cause cancer just so they can say "I told you so". Fuck it.



"The active chemical agent in marijuana curbs the growth of three kinds of cancer in mice and may also suppress the immunity reaction that causes rejection of organ transplants, a Medical College of Virginia team has discovered." The researchers "found that THC slowed the growth of lung cancers, breast cancers, and a virus-induced leukemia in laboratory mice, and prolonged their lives by as much as 36 percent."-- in the "Local" section of The Washington Post on Aug.18,1974.
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I'm going to wing it and guess the next post after mine. I wonder how close I'll get.

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well then the year old threads no one is supposed to reply to shouldnt even be on here then should they? they still come up in a yahoo search and anyone can still post on them. delete the thread then *shrugs* lol
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well then the year old threads no one is supposed to reply to shouldnt even be on here then should they? they still come up in a yahoo search and anyone can still post on them. delete the thread then *shrugs* lol
Well, there is such a thing as forum etiquette, and part of that etiquette is to not bring up year old threads, regardless of whether yahoo's search finds them or not.
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